It's not like the FBI broke the Law a thousand ways when they lied to the FISA court or falsified emails chasing after Trump and every single one of his associates - including General Flynn - FOR YEARS AND YEARS ...
Or that there are over 30 whistle blowers right now - coming to the Oversight Committee for protection from FBI leaders ... with direct knowledge of crimes.
The House Oversight Committee is for political kabuki theater productions, nothing more. Whichever party is the majority uses it for fundraising off of people's outrage, nothing more. See: Fast and Furious, Lois Lerner, Benghazi, Hillary's emails. Every single employee of the FBI could testify to the HOC with direct knowledge of crimes, and nothing would happen.
While I can not disagree with your points related to the past ...
I think that MAGA has seeped into parts of Congress NOW - note the 15 times Congress had to vote to get McCarthy elected as Speaker - that is NEW!!! The Establishment was not prepared to negotiate like that - and we got serious Concessions in that negotiation.
A handful of Congressmen ARE FIGHTING FOR MAGA - which is growing.
I want to believe Jim Jordan is part of this movement. He did not have to do what he is doing - and I can not recall the last time ANY FBI whistle-blowers came forward like this - and certainly not THRITY!
u/IncredibleMrE1 is correct that the HOC lacks the teeth to act on whatever they find.
They could introduce legislation to ban the FBI, based on the evidence, and maybe even get it to pass in the House (unlikely due to RINOs). But even then it would never pass the Senate and would absolutely be vetoed.
Look to the States for the solutions and any possible justice.
To be clear, I am not trying to cast aspersions on individual members of the HOC. I think the ones like Biggs, Gosar, Luna, Scott Perry, and Boebert have honest intentions. But the HOC does not ever produce the results we need - the most we get are soundbites and headlines about Jim Jordan or MTG slamming the commies (for example, see the Twitter hearing with Gadde and Roth). You are right, justice and solutions will have to come from the states.
I think the main battle here is for FISA. The FBI is the agency that uses FISA ALLOT! Senators talk to our DIA types and it's all about 'getting information' ... and FISA is a massive arm in that data collection process - Even against Americans.
I'm kinda .... I don't know... I'm just gonna lean into it.
Ok I'll raise you one Galatic Empire.
I want us to be their nightmare. Straight taking over nations, stepping on necks, executing anyone who aids our enemies. No foreign ownership of any farmland and limited personal property. A 20% tax on all money's "wired" overseas for non citizens
Hard on crime.
Build the Death Valley Free Prison, just dump em inside, wall it in with gun towers and mines.
He has the influence of the Speaker position. He has to be bold, like our opponents are.
The opponent pushes the envelope. Why not have him invite the DA to DC and use the Capital Police, whom he controls, to arrest the DA for something? Who cares if it ultimately fails; the process is the punishment.
Why not leverage his influence and call for protests at the DAs home? Why not organize a million-man march to the DAs office?
Why can’t we think outside the box and push the envelope?
I'm not really sure what he can do directly as Speaker of the House to obstruct a municipal prosecution in a different district than the one he represents. Using his position to put public pressure on the DA to reverse course is probably the most power he has here, which is exactly what he's doing with this statement.
He can make it clear that if the Dems continue to wage Lawfare against us unilaterally, he will use the House Sergeant at Arms and the Capitol Police to enforce subpoenas, and will go scorched earth on every single scandal the Dems got away with over the past 15 years.
Pass no budgets, pass no bills bring the goverment the whole government to a screeching halt. When all the government workers are sitting at home getting no pay check, no health insurance nothing and they start starving. Then we might see some movement. Congress has powers. The House can just do nothing and let the whole ride stop.
Well if you're saying it is abuse then get his ass hauled in front of the House and investigate Alvin Bragg for election interference. Put him in the hot seat and he will knock the shit off.
President Trump has already declared himself as a candidate for 2024. This is just an attempt to interfere with his ability to campaign and smear him. The charges are bogus.
Alvin Bragg obviously wants attention. Give it to him. Investigate him.
Here we have the milquetoast 'ostensibly' republican response
Edit: You want to have your eyes opened and never not see one of these again? ...You sure? Ok, don't say I didn't warn you.
The Milquetoast republican response begins with a stating of a fact or facts that are indisputable to a non-Satanist. "This virus came from China." "The Manhattan DA is abusing his office to target President Trump." "We are wasting our tax dollars in Ukraine." You get the picture.
Afterwards, it's followed up with a supposed accomplishment by the establishment GOP. "we've written an angry letter.' "We stopped a bill." "We've launched an investigation."
Followed by changing the subject to something else because they've only made this commentary to begin with in order to point out that they made this commentary and avoid being criticized for it.
Now ask yourself why Ron DeSantis has a history of not even responding to these events for at least a week after it's broken as news?
Because DeSantis, for all that the media has hyped him up, is a mediocre governor. Sound and fury but when you take a look at his actions they are lacking.
His hyped up social media bill, was shallow and only protects politicians. His school initiatives have been paying off teachers and doing the bare minimum that a sane person would have done when it comes to not perverting our children. Well, until they're in the 5th grade then it's open season!
All in all, DeSantis is who he was before he became a potential threat to President Trump. He's a Neo-Conservative who supports liberal free trade. Right now every bit of news you see on him, even the ostensibly 'negative' news is all a front to hype him up. It's meant to get well intentioned fools to stab the only guy who had gone to bat for them in the back. And then? They'll rig the election anyway or let him win. Because the unfortunate truth is, DeSantis is not in opposition to the system. He's a cog in it, and even the actions he takes that seem to be against that system aren't. It's like thinking that because a wheel in a clock goes counter-clockwise that it's fighting the clock. It's doing precisely what it's meant to be doing.
In conclusion, DeSantis is keeping quiet because he is waiting and seeing what happens before making a choice to be loud and protesting Trump's arrest or keeping quiet and exploiting Trump's legal troubles in the campaign season. Most likely he'll keep quiet and make at most a snarky remark if Trump isn't able to make it to a debate. Example: "I'm the one speaking up right now for X."
The DA has sovereign immunity. Any decision made "in good faith" as part of his job, has no consequences. The only chance to remove the Manhattan DA was for Zeldin to win governor (probably another reason why they waited until 2023 to reopen this).
All the bureaucrats and judges in NY are the same side as this Soros DA. There is no legal option.
Remember when we thought jailing Obama for Watergate-x1000 was inconceivable because a US president is too big to jail? Now they're about to jail Trump for basically jaywalking, and he didnt even jaywalk.
Follow the money Kev. Soros-backed DA's are all over the country. McCarthy could start by exposing just who is in charge of these DA's. Then he could put a stop to "brought and paid for". Time to audit Alvin Bragg and demand he release his taxes.
Folks, this is part of a paradigm shift. If you all remember back a lifetime or only 7 years ago, you could NOT put a political opponent in jail or arrest them even if you had them dead to rights on treason, mishandling of classified data, human rights abuses or any other crimes. The mere appearance of persecuting a political opponent was so anathema to Dems that it must never ever be done because muh banana republic. Well, now of course that they have the powerz, it's okay. WHAT THEY DO NOT REALIZE IS THE RULES JUST CHANGED FOR THEM AS WELL.
I'm glad McCarthy said something. Now, he should do something about it. This sort of partisan prosecutorial misconduct won't end until someone goes to jail. So do something about it!!!!
I hope the cavalier weaponization of government (which only goes in one direction) against political opponents is getting to the point that retarded ass normies are noticing.
Dang, Kevin McCarthy making an actual statement against the actions of Democrats?! Dude is a huge faggot, but he got this right, he got the J6 tapes right (finally) and he even changed some House rules in our favor. I will take it. Now quit being a globalist scumbag and then we can talk.
When either side starts putting their political opponents in jail That is the moment we have become a banana republic.
Of course -
It's not like the FBI broke the Law a thousand ways when they lied to the FISA court or falsified emails chasing after Trump and every single one of his associates - including General Flynn - FOR YEARS AND YEARS ...
Or that there are over 30 whistle blowers right now - coming to the Oversight Committee for protection from FBI leaders ... with direct knowledge of crimes.
all totally innocent.
The House Oversight Committee is for political kabuki theater productions, nothing more. Whichever party is the majority uses it for fundraising off of people's outrage, nothing more. See: Fast and Furious, Lois Lerner, Benghazi, Hillary's emails. Every single employee of the FBI could testify to the HOC with direct knowledge of crimes, and nothing would happen.
While I can not disagree with your points related to the past ...
I think that MAGA has seeped into parts of Congress NOW - note the 15 times Congress had to vote to get McCarthy elected as Speaker - that is NEW!!! The Establishment was not prepared to negotiate like that - and we got serious Concessions in that negotiation.
A handful of Congressmen ARE FIGHTING FOR MAGA - which is growing.
I want to believe Jim Jordan is part of this movement. He did not have to do what he is doing - and I can not recall the last time ANY FBI whistle-blowers came forward like this - and certainly not THRITY!
u/IncredibleMrE1 is correct that the HOC lacks the teeth to act on whatever they find.
They could introduce legislation to ban the FBI, based on the evidence, and maybe even get it to pass in the House (unlikely due to RINOs). But even then it would never pass the Senate and would absolutely be vetoed.
Look to the States for the solutions and any possible justice.
To be clear, I am not trying to cast aspersions on individual members of the HOC. I think the ones like Biggs, Gosar, Luna, Scott Perry, and Boebert have honest intentions. But the HOC does not ever produce the results we need - the most we get are soundbites and headlines about Jim Jordan or MTG slamming the commies (for example, see the Twitter hearing with Gadde and Roth). You are right, justice and solutions will have to come from the states.
Amen. The House is forever corrupted. The states have a ton of.power individually and need to wield it.
Agreed -
I think the main battle here is for FISA. The FBI is the agency that uses FISA ALLOT! Senators talk to our DIA types and it's all about 'getting information' ... and FISA is a massive arm in that data collection process - Even against Americans.
Interesting angle.
Getting rid of FISA would make this entire Congress a success, no matter what else they do.
They won't give up FISA.... they will murder everyone first.
Yeah they negotiated to use lube on us this time
Look into why there were 15 votes before McCarthy got in.... read up -
this is MAGA trying to ascend in the Swamp. These are the first steps - and they are not bad.
I want a black panther as a pet and I will name her Kabuki
Even if they are satanic elite pedo scum who break the laws? I could name a few who deserve prison at minimum, highly warranted.
Honestly think we've been one since at least H.W. Bush. When a CIA backed leader takes over your country, you might be a banana republic.
There were multiple milestones. 1913. 1865. 1803. 1791.
1964 - silver taken out of our coins… 1971 - Nixon closes the gold window.
1933 - gold confiscation
I'm using 1861 instead of 1865.
That was when Lincoln arbitrarily decided it wasn't a voluntary union and started suspending the Constitution for his War of Political Power.
Good point. I was going with the way it ended, rather than how he started it.
Lincoln's decisions caused the FED to get fed waaaay too much. Now the fed is as bloated as the antifederalists feared.
And yet, you'll find "Conservatives" celebrating him for "saving the Union".
No, he destroyed the Union of States and imposed a National government.
The hamster is speaking my language
Oh, you also speak the rare language of "real history"?
Congrats. Need more of us.
Aaron burr did one thing right but that thing was very admirable...
I'm kinda .... I don't know... I'm just gonna lean into it.
Ok I'll raise you one Galatic Empire.
I want us to be their nightmare. Straight taking over nations, stepping on necks, executing anyone who aids our enemies. No foreign ownership of any farmland and limited personal property. A 20% tax on all money's "wired" overseas for non citizens
Hard on crime.
Build the Death Valley Free Prison, just dump em inside, wall it in with gun towers and mines.
Stuff like that.
This has split past banana and gone full rutabaga. Plaid as fuck
If they are truly innocent politicians maybe. There aren’t many of those left though…
No shit, Kev. Do something.
But that would require courage and risk taking.
Better to just say a few words and go back home to my mansion.
Not sure what authority McCarthy has to do anything beyond hearings.
He has the influence of the Speaker position. He has to be bold, like our opponents are.
The opponent pushes the envelope. Why not have him invite the DA to DC and use the Capital Police, whom he controls, to arrest the DA for something? Who cares if it ultimately fails; the process is the punishment.
Why not leverage his influence and call for protests at the DAs home? Why not organize a million-man march to the DAs office?
Why can’t we think outside the box and push the envelope?
He is milquetoast at best. Bold is not McCarthy.
Frank Luntz's mansion...
I'm not really sure what he can do directly as Speaker of the House to obstruct a municipal prosecution in a different district than the one he represents. Using his position to put public pressure on the DA to reverse course is probably the most power he has here, which is exactly what he's doing with this statement.
He shouldn't even have a voice in his own district regarding municipal matters.
However, if official power is being abused, they do have the ability to hold hearings, but that's about it.
He can make it clear that if the Dems continue to wage Lawfare against us unilaterally, he will use the House Sergeant at Arms and the Capitol Police to enforce subpoenas, and will go scorched earth on every single scandal the Dems got away with over the past 15 years.
McCarthy calls for no protests or violence when Trump is arrested
https://www.axios.com/2023/03/19/mccarthy-urges-no-protests-violence-if-trump-arrested
WTF CAN HE DO?!
Pass no budgets, pass no bills bring the goverment the whole government to a screeching halt. When all the government workers are sitting at home getting no pay check, no health insurance nothing and they start starving. Then we might see some movement. Congress has powers. The House can just do nothing and let the whole ride stop.
But that would require courage.
Strongly worded statement incoming!
Well if you're saying it is abuse then get his ass hauled in front of the House and investigate Alvin Bragg for election interference. Put him in the hot seat and he will knock the shit off.
President Trump has already declared himself as a candidate for 2024. This is just an attempt to interfere with his ability to campaign and smear him. The charges are bogus.
Alvin Bragg obviously wants attention. Give it to him. Investigate him.
Do something about it then.
Here we have the milquetoast 'ostensibly' republican response
Edit: You want to have your eyes opened and never not see one of these again? ...You sure? Ok, don't say I didn't warn you.
What is your answer to #4?
Because DeSantis, for all that the media has hyped him up, is a mediocre governor. Sound and fury but when you take a look at his actions they are lacking.
His hyped up social media bill, was shallow and only protects politicians. His school initiatives have been paying off teachers and doing the bare minimum that a sane person would have done when it comes to not perverting our children. Well, until they're in the 5th grade then it's open season!
All in all, DeSantis is who he was before he became a potential threat to President Trump. He's a Neo-Conservative who supports liberal free trade. Right now every bit of news you see on him, even the ostensibly 'negative' news is all a front to hype him up. It's meant to get well intentioned fools to stab the only guy who had gone to bat for them in the back. And then? They'll rig the election anyway or let him win. Because the unfortunate truth is, DeSantis is not in opposition to the system. He's a cog in it, and even the actions he takes that seem to be against that system aren't. It's like thinking that because a wheel in a clock goes counter-clockwise that it's fighting the clock. It's doing precisely what it's meant to be doing.
In conclusion, DeSantis is keeping quiet because he is waiting and seeing what happens before making a choice to be loud and protesting Trump's arrest or keeping quiet and exploiting Trump's legal troubles in the campaign season. Most likely he'll keep quiet and make at most a snarky remark if Trump isn't able to make it to a debate. Example: "I'm the one speaking up right now for X."
Thanks for the thoughtful response, I was genuinely curious.
The DA has sovereign immunity. Any decision made "in good faith" as part of his job, has no consequences. The only chance to remove the Manhattan DA was for Zeldin to win governor (probably another reason why they waited until 2023 to reopen this).
All the bureaucrats and judges in NY are the same side as this Soros DA. There is no legal option.
You could argue that we are well past "in good faith" here.
What i don't understand is the clearly racist angle here....
If BRAGG is so horrible a name that it needs scrubbed from the Army base then why the fuck NYC have a DA carrying that racist slave owner name?
Don't worry guys, Kev and the GOP are on top of it. They will send out a fundraising email.
Remember when we thought jailing Obama for Watergate-x1000 was inconceivable because a US president is too big to jail? Now they're about to jail Trump for basically jaywalking, and he didnt even jaywalk.
Crazy times
hurrr hurrrr durrr hur duuuur hurrrrrr
Where's the videos Kev?
Yeah, no shit
Follow the money Kev. Soros-backed DA's are all over the country. McCarthy could start by exposing just who is in charge of these DA's. Then he could put a stop to "brought and paid for". Time to audit Alvin Bragg and demand he release his taxes.
Folks, this is part of a paradigm shift. If you all remember back a lifetime or only 7 years ago, you could NOT put a political opponent in jail or arrest them even if you had them dead to rights on treason, mishandling of classified data, human rights abuses or any other crimes. The mere appearance of persecuting a political opponent was so anathema to Dems that it must never ever be done because muh banana republic. Well, now of course that they have the powerz, it's okay. WHAT THEY DO NOT REALIZE IS THE RULES JUST CHANGED FOR THEM AS WELL.
I'm glad McCarthy said something. Now, he should do something about it. This sort of partisan prosecutorial misconduct won't end until someone goes to jail. So do something about it!!!!
Amen.
McCarthy redemption arc?
Trump could just not ever set foot in NY again and relocate the UN to Alaska or something
An arrest warrant from NY could be enforced by law enforcement in any other state, so that wouldn't be a good strategy.
If De Santis let that happen he can kiss his 2028 run goodbye
DeSantis can't stop a cop in a different state from enforcing a warrant. I'm pretty sure Trump wants to travel the country to campaign.
Captain Obvious to the rescue.
I hope the cavalier weaponization of government (which only goes in one direction) against political opponents is getting to the point that retarded ass normies are noticing.
Not a chance.
Sadly I agree
But then he is also concerned about people protesting against this abuse of office. Pick a side dude.
Dang, Kevin McCarthy making an actual statement against the actions of Democrats?! Dude is a huge faggot, but he got this right, he got the J6 tapes right (finally) and he even changed some House rules in our favor. I will take it. Now quit being a globalist scumbag and then we can talk.
Statements don’t mean squat. There has to be real consequences for abuses of power like this.
So abuse your office and target the DA. The high road leads straight to a fucking cliff dipshit
SO? DO something about it!
Lip service won’t do it for me Kevin. Until I see you taking real life changing “kinetic“ action I will consider you a rhino.
Get it Mccarthy.
Less talk , more action McCarthy…..
Wow, strong words there Kevin. Think they will work?
And Mr. speaker intends to use his office to go after this commie DA, right?
Kevin McCarthy being more based and a better human than DeSantis.
That's something else. I've been coming around to really liking this guy.
Faggot speaks: states the obvious.
Abuse your powers. Take all your money. Turn all your stocks into physical silver and gold. Crash crash crash!
Also- release all of the fucking Jan 6 footage now, you liar.