Hawaiian here and I agree. We stole your money to build "interstate" highways that are now riddled with fucking potholes, so we stole more to build a rail from nowhere to nowhere because driving here is a nightmare.
That will be close enough for one of my favorite dives.
Look for a day charter to "Hammerhead Alley". I forget the name of the smaller island, but there's a chartered dive where you can see dozens (or more) hammerhead sharks. This was a memorable dive for me.
I've never spent any time on the Big Island, so can't help you with the local stuff.
Last time I was in Honolulu I took a bus tour. We went past the school where Obama was supposed to have attended. I asked the guide, do you think he went to school here? The guide said, "no". He said he was native, grew up here and neither he or anyone he knows ever saw Obama.
Any idea if the average Hawaiian thinks Obama went to school there?
There’s was taxes even in the beginning. A modern nation cannot survive without them, people who think otherwise are truly delusional. That doesn’t mean that we wouldn’t be better off paying less than a tenth of what we do now however.
There were excise taxes, but not property or income. No one is required to buy goods, so, yes, you could theoretically go your entire life without paying taxes in early America.
We need to stop being a "modern" nation. If we tried being a little less "modern," and became more concerned with liberty, as our forbears were, we'd be more financially sound AND be broken away from this slave system we live in.
Taxes well managed are great for a strong and functioning society.
What sux if you could probably halve the current taxes, focus spending on what matters, reduce corruption and have an better functioning society.
What I'd like to see govt do is 1) continuely increase the minimum income tax threshold. Keep lifting it and reducing spending year by year until most people don't have to pay income tax. 2) Remove taxes from anything essential, so your home, education and medical care. So if you want a homestead life you can. Keep the core services tax free for cheaper and of people want to live life free of government they can. Participating and funding society should be because you want to, not because you have to.
More money in your pockets means more money you'll spend on goods, means more revenue from sales tax.
Abolish the income tax. Let people keep their money so they can use it to buy more shit. That money can then be used to fund basic shit, like municipalities and military.
Abolish things like the department of education and let the states manage their public schools. Abolish federal student loans.
Abolish the welfare system currently in place. Unemployment is great, but it should only be used in an emergency or transition period. When that time is up, you're SOL.
Stop paying for dumb things like single moms. This would fix issues with ghetto babies being born growing up to be hoodlums and continuing the cycle. Women won't engage in slut culture and society as a whole would benefit.
There a lots of shit we could fix while getting rid of federal taxes.
Income tax is pure horseshit. I've heard fairly decent arguments for a sales tax (but only for certain goods), with interesting proposals how to split it - for example, a 10% sales tax with a 4-3-2-1 split, meaning 4% goes to the city, 3% to the county, 2% to the state, and 1% to the feds.
But that's under the assumption we need taxes at all. I would prefer to pay a la carte for the services I want.
Welfare is when fat lazy asses pop out kids and collect free housing, food, medical, and a stipend. Then they spend the money on hair, nails, and weed while the kids get their 3 meals from school and clothes / toys from church outreach programs.
They hustle drugs or rent a room in their house for extra money, but can't be bothered to get a job or the gibs will stop. There are currently 4 consecutive generations of welfares in my area that have never had a job.
Or Chiraq, where beetlejuice took the "COVID-relief" griftbux and allocated it to a bunch of racist pro-black nonsense. Yeah, I know she's out, but it's Chicago we're talking about.
The government maintained a defense before it had income tax.
The government has land, makes investments, and runs public institutions that provide paid services. It can easily generate revenue. It can sell bonds and other instruments that bear interest.
For the Civil War, we did need a little extra money. This was mostly import/export taxes. Some property tax. And an income tax.. which was a flat 3% rate, on incomes over $800/year, which was only 3% of the population at the time.
Federal Income tax is a retarded concept, and moves your money and it's representation straight out of your district and into the unaccountable Washington D.C. At this point, I see it as nothing other than a thuggish crime committed on a lazy population.
I’ve been fairly busy, working full-time. Got a lot going on, I recently got in a small fender bender so I’m dealing with that. Installing all my amplifiers and subwoofers and wiring snd all that takes up my spare time, trying to save as much money as I can to pay down an unexpected debt, I recently had a medical episode snd nearly died, so im still mentally processing that.
But on the plus side, I got my high output alternator installed in my car, got both subwoofers in (had to save up for them at 400 a piece), saved up for my amps (400 for one, 800 for the other) snd installed in, and now I’m just working on tuning it the right way. Kind of hard in a residential area because it wiil literally shake your windows, so I’ve been doing it at odd times when people tend to be st work snd in short bursts. Chicago Police isn’t too keen on people with sound systems you can hear from a few blocks away snd are salivating to just repossesses my car or at the very least give a ticket for noise. So I’ll work on tuning for 5-10 min here snd there and continue later. It’s a lot harder then you think to make it sound clean, crisp, loud, snd with quality bass. But I’m getting there.
I've been busy trying to get both of my new businesses up and running, working on creating my new channel and Substack, and staying active in local politics.
Human beings are fucking stupid as fuck. How about instead of being taxed like slaves and peasants, we abolish taxation (at least income, property, and death tax) and leave the fractional reserve banking system like the founders intended?
Mexico and Canada would be great if we invaded both, then put all the "natives" in "special camps", that would be there new permenant homes AND if some of them wanted to work for us we could pay them SUPER low wages to accomplish Our more perfect Society.
It's actually and literally that simple and a win-win for everyone!!
We figured y'all would be alright by yourself, you know, because of the fur trade and other shit from that movie where Leonardo DiCaprio got raped by a bear.
Well yeah, but if I have to pay taxes (like run a business) I run the LLC through Wyoming. It's a red state with red policies. Whereas if I ran my LLC in Washington, I would be helping strengthen their stronghold.
Maybe I am not seeing the connection with hollywood elites having their mega mansions there?
Yeah, I am a Wyoming resident, the LLC is a great invention from Wyoming. Though the main reason to use a Wyoming LLC has to deal with how claims get settled in court - you can't directly seize assets from a Wyoming LLC, you can only get a lien then execute the lien.
Thing is, if you actually pay taxes here, it all goes to Teton county and catering to the billionaires not the regular people
You forgot Alaska and Hawa… Alaska.
Hawaiian here and I agree. We stole your money to build "interstate" highways that are now riddled with fucking potholes, so we stole more to build a rail from nowhere to nowhere because driving here is a nightmare.
Good to meet a Hawaiian on here. I’m actually taking my first trip out there in may.
I lived on Maui for 6 months when I was younger. I got rock fever and had to get off.
I won't insult Hawaiians and discuss the other reasons I left, but let's just say their public education system is very much lacking.
But I do love visiting, and the diving is very good.
The diving is what I’m looking forward to.
Tell me what island you're going to and what level of diver you are, and I'll provide a good scouting report.
Hoping you're going to say Maui.
Haha. I sort of wish I was. We’re going to Hawaii. As in the big island Hawaii.
That will be close enough for one of my favorite dives.
Look for a day charter to "Hammerhead Alley". I forget the name of the smaller island, but there's a chartered dive where you can see dozens (or more) hammerhead sharks. This was a memorable dive for me.
I've never spent any time on the Big Island, so can't help you with the local stuff.
I love visiting Hawaii. Lots of places to see and things to do. Great for a vacation.
I would never live there though. Seems like a shithole place to be.
Last time I was in Honolulu I took a bus tour. We went past the school where Obama was supposed to have attended. I asked the guide, do you think he went to school here? The guide said, "no". He said he was native, grew up here and neither he or anyone he knows ever saw Obama.
Any idea if the average Hawaiian thinks Obama went to school there?
You have to ask around in gay bars.
Sounds like California and their 150Billion rail. how much of that did Nancy Piglosi and the Crime families of Cali get I wonder.
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you guys almost got nuked once. that was pretty crazy.
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If the feds didn't strangle Alaska they could basically fund themselves with OIL revenue, CHECKMAKE FUCKERS!
I don't want my taxes going to California.
Or anywhere other than my pocket.
Agree. Taxes are bullshit.
Taxation is theft
Armed robbery really
They are necessary unfortunately
We did just fine for the first 150ish years without them.
There’s was taxes even in the beginning. A modern nation cannot survive without them, people who think otherwise are truly delusional. That doesn’t mean that we wouldn’t be better off paying less than a tenth of what we do now however.
There were excise taxes, but not property or income. No one is required to buy goods, so, yes, you could theoretically go your entire life without paying taxes in early America.
We need to stop being a "modern" nation. If we tried being a little less "modern," and became more concerned with liberty, as our forbears were, we'd be more financially sound AND be broken away from this slave system we live in.
They are bullshit when badly managed.
Taxes well managed are great for a strong and functioning society.
What sux if you could probably halve the current taxes, focus spending on what matters, reduce corruption and have an better functioning society.
What I'd like to see govt do is 1) continuely increase the minimum income tax threshold. Keep lifting it and reducing spending year by year until most people don't have to pay income tax. 2) Remove taxes from anything essential, so your home, education and medical care. So if you want a homestead life you can. Keep the core services tax free for cheaper and of people want to live life free of government they can. Participating and funding society should be because you want to, not because you have to.
Nah, they're just bullshit all the time.
Sometimes it is the least bad option, but the least bad option still isn't a good option
👆 Modern american politics summed up in a single sentence.
I always like to ask how people propose to fund the very limited government we should all want?
There are a couple of correct answers to this.
Tariffs + a .25-.5% property tax which excludes agricultural use + government corporations being self funding (USPS)
That plus abolishing prisons and replacing it with corporal punishment
If the government is actually providing a service it should be able to get people to voluntarily pay for it.
This is one of the better answers I've seen to that question, and I've asked it a lot over the years.
Flat sales tax.
More money in your pockets means more money you'll spend on goods, means more revenue from sales tax.
Abolish the income tax. Let people keep their money so they can use it to buy more shit. That money can then be used to fund basic shit, like municipalities and military.
Abolish things like the department of education and let the states manage their public schools. Abolish federal student loans.
Abolish the welfare system currently in place. Unemployment is great, but it should only be used in an emergency or transition period. When that time is up, you're SOL.
Stop paying for dumb things like single moms. This would fix issues with ghetto babies being born growing up to be hoodlums and continuing the cycle. Women won't engage in slut culture and society as a whole would benefit.
There a lots of shit we could fix while getting rid of federal taxes.
This isn't a bad answer at all, but please allow me to point out the flaw in the flat sales tax.
The poor spend more of their income as a %, therefore this is a regressive tax by definition.
Agree about your abolishment ideas in general.
Income tax is pure horseshit. I've heard fairly decent arguments for a sales tax (but only for certain goods), with interesting proposals how to split it - for example, a 10% sales tax with a 4-3-2-1 split, meaning 4% goes to the city, 3% to the county, 2% to the state, and 1% to the feds.
But that's under the assumption we need taxes at all. I would prefer to pay a la carte for the services I want.
We do need taxes to an extent, there are things that must be funded for a nation to function.
Or New York. Or Washington DC.
or Planned Parenthood
I don't want mine going to anyone on welfare who's been on it longer than 3 months.
Define welfare. For instance I have been getting VA disability payments since 1983 - due to having lost most of my left foot.
Welfare is when fat lazy asses pop out kids and collect free housing, food, medical, and a stipend. Then they spend the money on hair, nails, and weed while the kids get their 3 meals from school and clothes / toys from church outreach programs.
They hustle drugs or rent a room in their house for extra money, but can't be bothered to get a job or the gibs will stop. There are currently 4 consecutive generations of welfares in my area that have never had a job.
In Grenada?
Or Chiraq, where beetlejuice took the "COVID-relief" griftbux and allocated it to a bunch of racist pro-black nonsense. Yeah, I know she's out, but it's Chicago we're talking about.
Repeal the IRS
This should be a photo of my pocket.
My taxes go in my pocket.
Should only be a photo of your own wallet!
We shouldn't pay taxes for anything. It's organized mass theft of the masses.
I used to say except for police and defense.
Now I don’t. Police aren’t protecting me and military leaders are a joke.
I'm ok with tariffs to finance the Navy. I think protecting trade routes is important.
I'm good with this.
Don't want goods being taken over by pirates.
Only problem would be that other countries would be flexing their shit while we could barely afford to keep ours floating.
The concept of Privateers solves that last point.
Our multi-national corporations can certainly afford to defend their own fleets.
West Virginian rednecks would take kindly to gunboats.
And roads
There's a pretty good argument to be made for private maintenance for roads.
The government maintained a defense before it had income tax.
The government has land, makes investments, and runs public institutions that provide paid services. It can easily generate revenue. It can sell bonds and other instruments that bear interest.
For the Civil War, we did need a little extra money. This was mostly import/export taxes. Some property tax. And an income tax.. which was a flat 3% rate, on incomes over $800/year, which was only 3% of the population at the time.
Federal Income tax is a retarded concept, and moves your money and it's representation straight out of your district and into the unaccountable Washington D.C. At this point, I see it as nothing other than a thuggish crime committed on a lazy population.
Police are there to enforce the law.
But the law is malleable by the state.
And the state can be corrupted.
Something me and my leftist (not liberal) friends can actually agree on.
There should be a hole where D.C. is
Isn't there already the biggest taxation sinkhole in the world in DC?
I don't want my taxes taken.
That is highly antisemitic.
And extremely racist, not to mention the implications of xenophobia and anti-transgenderism. It’s sickening.
Where have you and your non-sarcastic comments been hiding?
It’s been a long nap in Delawhere, Jack.
But nah, just been working on my csr audio a lot. Tomorrows the day I’m putting in the last piece of the puzzle.
Glad you're doing constructive things and doing well.
You've been missed.
Thank you, sir 👌🏻 Likewise.
I’ve been fairly busy, working full-time. Got a lot going on, I recently got in a small fender bender so I’m dealing with that. Installing all my amplifiers and subwoofers and wiring snd all that takes up my spare time, trying to save as much money as I can to pay down an unexpected debt, I recently had a medical episode snd nearly died, so im still mentally processing that.
But on the plus side, I got my high output alternator installed in my car, got both subwoofers in (had to save up for them at 400 a piece), saved up for my amps (400 for one, 800 for the other) snd installed in, and now I’m just working on tuning it the right way. Kind of hard in a residential area because it wiil literally shake your windows, so I’ve been doing it at odd times when people tend to be st work snd in short bursts. Chicago Police isn’t too keen on people with sound systems you can hear from a few blocks away snd are salivating to just repossesses my car or at the very least give a ticket for noise. So I’ll work on tuning for 5-10 min here snd there and continue later. It’s a lot harder then you think to make it sound clean, crisp, loud, snd with quality bass. But I’m getting there.
What have you been up to?
I've been busy trying to get both of my new businesses up and running, working on creating my new channel and Substack, and staying active in local politics.
Also, I got baptized last Sunday.
Fuck alaska and hawaii
This should be a picture of your wallet
Bravo.
Came here to say the exact same fucking thing.
Seriously. What kind of defeated mindset wants to give these shit heads our money at all at this point.
Keep on keepin on
Taxation is organized extortion
I'm willing to trade Canadian water for some 2A.
Willing to trade Canadian land for some 1A-4A.
Sorry bud, just move to Merica, one day we'll have to take over Canada anyway.
Sorry bud, just move to Merica, one day we'll have to take over Canada anyway.
Human beings are fucking stupid as fuck. How about instead of being taxed like slaves and peasants, we abolish taxation (at least income, property, and death tax) and leave the fractional reserve banking system like the founders intended?
End the Fed and it is game ON for success in America for "regular people".
There should be no countries on there
Taxes are theft
That’s not how you spell “in my own fucking pocket”
Return Hawaii to the monarchy!
Hawaii should be a military base and national park.
Fuck Alaska? Hawaii I understand.
TAXATION IS THEFT.
Milton Friedman and Ron Paul turned me on to minimal government, which would mean minimal taxes.
We need taxes for some things, don't get me wrong, but 90% of departments should be shut down
I agree.
Agree as well.
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Most of my taxes shouldn’t even go there. They should be staying in my pocket.
That should be a pic of your own wallet
Based Alaska?
our own wallets is where they belong
It looks so nice with no Mexico or Canada.
Mexico and Canada would be great if we invaded both, then put all the "natives" in "special camps", that would be there new permenant homes AND if some of them wanted to work for us we could pay them SUPER low wages to accomplish Our more perfect Society.
It's actually and literally that simple and a win-win for everyone!!
slave mentality
taxation is theft
Meh, I live in Alaska. Map should be… just Alaska.
[Insert picture of my wallet here]
This is where my taxes should go.
Everyone remembers to forget Alaska and Hawaii but no one notices Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
We figured y'all would be alright by yourself, you know, because of the fur trade and other shit from that movie where Leonardo DiCaprio got raped by a bear.
I try to send all my tax money to Idaho or Wyoming. Fuck Washington state.
Wyoming has all of the Hollywood elite and multi billionaires, they all live in Jackson Hole
Well yeah, but if I have to pay taxes (like run a business) I run the LLC through Wyoming. It's a red state with red policies. Whereas if I ran my LLC in Washington, I would be helping strengthen their stronghold.
Maybe I am not seeing the connection with hollywood elites having their mega mansions there?
Yeah, I am a Wyoming resident, the LLC is a great invention from Wyoming. Though the main reason to use a Wyoming LLC has to deal with how claims get settled in court - you can't directly seize assets from a Wyoming LLC, you can only get a lien then execute the lien.
Thing is, if you actually pay taxes here, it all goes to Teton county and catering to the billionaires not the regular people
Good to know.
The LLC is a pretty new thing all things considered, it only came to the USA when Wyoming created the framework in 1977
You seem confused. Abolish all taxes.
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Taxation is theft