Because he needs them or he has no majority, few friends in courts and no ability to get anything done. Politics is messy, terrible fucking business, but he got a lot done with those damned RINOs and the RINOs are now feeling the heat from he citizens they fucked over.
this is what people don't understand. the Russia collusion nonsense was not created as a political weapon by the Democrats it was created by the deep State itself to keep Trump under control..
every Republican in Trump's first two years supported the idea of impeaching him. it was meant to blackmail trump. that if he rocked the boat too hard they would impeach him
personally I think he should have called their bluff and watch the Republican Party burn to the ground forever impeaching their own president who had a higher approval rating than any other Republican member of Congress
EXACTLY the fuckin' problem! Who the hell is supposed to screen visitors? The man is in a goddamned campaign and his moron staff didn't warn him not to take uninvited guests? That is "uninvited guests" who showed up with with a person Trump HIMSELF described as "seriously troubled" fer crying out loud.
[takes deep breath -- counts to ten] OK, I'll shut up now.
Unknown, uninvited, "extra" guests... were all vetted by the Secret Service or they would not have been let in...
Who is lying here? How much was known? Why the backtracking now when there is a little bit of flak regarding the JQ? Where is Jared? Is he still advising Trump? If not, who else is that sounds exactly like Jared?
It doesn't matter what people think, or what viewpoints they have, even if they're viewpoints we dislike. I don't care what his opinions are, or about whom, he's entitled to have them.
Truth should NEVER be punished, and Assange WASN'T the provider of the truth, he was nothing more than the owner of the publisher.. An online newspaper, whose job is to report on issues of public interest. WikiLeaks was and always has been where you could anonymously send whistleblower information.
He provided the portal that shined light on people with real power, and he's paying the price for that - the same with Snowden. They exposed information that is fundamentally against everything I believed our government was for.
This, right here. This is what Anaconda does: spread baseless lies, just complete nonsense. I think people might be starting to catch on. And your usernames are obvious, Anaconda. ConcreteStairs, CeramicVase, and now WoodenTable. And all the 123 alts, one of which is also in this thread.
I am pretty sure I figured out who this guy is.
Almost positive he is Travis Allen formerly
known here as QLarp. He was flipping out about getting kicked from Truth Social, and then I happened to catch a glimpse of this article.
His speech patterns were very familiar.
Lol you moron the republicans and democrats both would have voted to impeach and remove without any significant investigation or opportunity for Trump to defend himself
Trump doesn’t need to sacrifice his political career and his freedom for a bunch of larpers who ran into a trap.
He warned them to stay peaceful and not break the law because the democrats could use it agaisnt them and treat them 100x worse than Antifa. They didn’t listen.
They deserve to be pardoned but there’s no way trump could have done it in January 2020. Saying he could have makes you a retard and probably a shill.
My thing is, what have we done about it? How can we blame Trump when all we have done to help them is argue about it on one small corner of the internet.
You are exceptionally retarded if you actually believe that they “all would have gotten primaried”
Pardoning a massive group of people for unknown crimes while you’re accused of an “insurrection” would not have been popular. It would have made Trump a pariah.
Trump was close to having the GOP support his removal even after he condemned January 6. Everything you say is idealistic nonsense. You sound like Kanye.
Wow, have you been an npc the past 7 years?? Trump was persona non grata....everywhere.
To say those people (some have committed suicide) deserve to rot against our constitution is disgusting.
but they don't let him win and keep trying to jail him anyway. It doesn't help to make excuses, he should have pardoned J6. Those people are being tortured because they defended him, J6 and even Assange.
Lincoln pardoned people before any arrests were in action. He could have even if it wasn't binding combined a statement of amnesty with a message of peace blah blah. The political landmine for Biden at that point would have been immense to undermine it and a long court battle.
Lincoln was a tyrant who created the bedrock for much of the govt abuse we now deal with. The foundation for that house of cards was built in 1913. And the rest of the house was built over time. Before Lincoln this would have been built on fucking sand.
Yup. Took me a while to admit this. Always recognized Woodrow Wilson as our biggest mistake, but took me forever to admit that Lincoln built the foundation that allowed Wilson to turn the federal govt into the corporate commie incestuous whatever-you-wanna-call-it political structure we have today in the first place.
I still struggle to concede he foresaw what would come — maybe he genuinely believed in what he was doing and projected himself onto all future leaders (meaning, he couldn’t ever imagine people abusing the power he let into the federal gov), but who knows.
I believe Lincoln didnt intend for this outcome as his plans for right after the war indicated he wanted to take a different direction than what the rest of the government went with.
His actions leading up to the war were still inexcusable and resulted in millions of American deaths without actually accomplishing anything since the south would have likely rejoined the union anyway.
Yup, and just from a business history perspective (actually wrote a paper on this years ago for a business history class), slavery would have ended anyway naturally as a natural force of industrialization. As agrarian south was overtaken by industrialization, even pre civil war, factory managers operated in free-wage (paid) labor, but preferred slaves to their northern laborer free-wage counterparts — so they’d pay plantation owners in their offseason to “rent” the slaves even at a premium/costing more (which they’d have preferred to simply pay directly. Ownership was a huge inconvenience for them, but so was paying their plantation masters to rent their labor).
Knowing what we now know about the courts, how likely do you think it would be that they would uphold some unprecedented blanket pardon of everyone who was at the Capitol on Jan. 6th?
Not a snowball's chance in Hell.
There is a reason why they waited until the illegitimate regime was installed before arresting people.
Trump should've pardoned them when he had the chance (last 14 days).
That would have been some trick, being that they hadn’t even been arrested yet. MTG has a fantastic thread on Twitter that calls out people like you for being completely unreasonable, and expecting the impossible.
Yet Trump is not in office. We care because it can give the perception that other people didn't vote for him... making it easier to get away with cheating. See 2020.
I had posts shadow banned for saying Kanye was bat shit crazy and not MAGA.
And he literally brought "friends" to get Trump in trouble. Without invitation. Glad Trump set the record straight. And Kanye said Trump yelled at him. Lol.
These very fine people only look out for numero uno, and use their privilege extensively. Case and point - Candace. She threw Trump under the bus the first chance she got.
The average Trump supporter has more in common with Fuentes than any other pundit. And nobody else seems willing to call Trump's flaws out to his face.
Yeah, the people who think the electorate has a lot in common with Nick have spent way too much fucking time in the groyper bubble. If that was the case then everyone would be rushing to associate with him, not the other way around.
I really don’t think so. And I kept an open mind and genuinely tried to like Nick Fuentes and appreciate his perspective, but he just comes across as an incredibly immature and hypocritical edgelord.
I also honestly don’t think a single human I interact with in daily life — who are all fairly politically aware — even know who Nick Fuentes is
I consider myself to be extremely politically knowledgeable and spend hours here and I don’t know jack shit about Fuentes other than every time he is brought up people sperg out about catgirls and groypers, which is so fucking esoteric that I’m sure 99% of normies don’t give a fuck about that flavor of autism
Yea the constant freak outs are what finally got me to check him out. First when Elijah Schaffer hosted him a couple years ago maybe? Idk, just don’t see the appeal I guess but also don’t really care, if others are into it then w/e
When I say things in common, I mean that Fuentes is middle class, went to a normal school, didn't have political connections, etc. He's an insufferable cunt, but he's the closest thing to a normal person Trump has talked to in the last few years.
Serious question: What has Fuentes done for anyone? He is the ultimate media punching bag and he has apparently had extraordinary success making that easy for them.
I remember he had a short spell with RSBN before they adopted the earnest, folksy, My Pillow style.
I'm guessing it was Milo who manipulated Ye into this. He has a massive chip on his shoulder and he's outright stated that his goal is to take down the Trump family.
Milo has always been a raging faggot and a grifter. It was obvious years back on t_d when he tried to grift the entire sub to donate to his buddy. But muh "based faggot" "we have the best faggots don't we guys?"
I have a love/hate relationship with Milo, because he was the person who started my red-pilling process. On one hand I thank him for starting me down this path, but on the other I hate who he’s become.
He “took himself out” by being a little too risqué with his language for the GOP, and then blamed everybody else for it.
The worst thing though was pretending he’s “ex-gay” to grift Christians, because they happen to be the one group who believes being gay is something you can “recover” from. To me that’s unforgivable.
The funny part though is now he’s living the same fraud of a life that he made his career on, when he called out Shaun King for not being black.
A couple of years back Milo had a total meltdown on Parler where he called Trump a fraud. Milo also blamed Trump for his life and his career being destroyed and said that he was dedicating his life to getting revenge.
I watched that episode, and yeah, Milo appeared to be in his old form, at least in his attitude toward “daddy” Trump.
It’s tough to tell what’s going on inside that boy’s head.
This opportunity with Ye could have come after he was on Timcast, because I remember thinking it was odd when Ye said Milo was his 2024 campaign manager, and was also the guy who talked him into doing it.
Pretty bizarre to have that come so soon after he had a lot of good stuff to say about GEOTUS on Timcast. Probably a carpe diem moment.
He isn't dipshit. He is saying Kanye instead of coming to him as a friend like Trump thought they were he brought a bunch of faggots to stir up trouble and did exactly that as soon as they left.
It’s not the media. It’s Team DeSantis. They’re the ones acting like complete leftists here, and they even pulled the “he dined with a white supremacist and anti-Semite” card.
GEOTUS is clapping back against the supporters of a ghost candidate who hasn’t even signified whether or not he’s running yet.
Dang, I can feel the unity among the base already.
Nick Fuentes represents the people that backed Trump up and defended him but were left in the dust. He also represents the revival of America First. As much as Trump got the ball rolling, he seemed to push away his greater allies while only hiring swamp retard liars and constantly aligning himself with Israel and Israel doesn’t have our best intentions.
Like the left the right is infested with scammers and larpers. Like black rifle coffee who some are grifters same for many, sometimes saying stupid shit is stupid an if you want to be president you can’t have a bunch of far right folks who may be right about a lot of things but still you can’t win on a far right platform. You need the middle. Trump has to deal with the swamp, yes he’s very naive sometimes but he needs to play the game. Having nick and Ye who might start saying shit that could sink trump is not worth the risk.
Fuentes is a 4chan kid who represents hardly anyone and is politically toxic. His AFPAC was a total flop and he only got MGT there by pure deception and she immediately disavowed him. Trump is politically naive, but avoiding Fuentes is a no-brainer.
Well I agree with that much. It's totally unacceptable that any voting American thinks the ZOG is some kinda KKK conspiracy when all it takes is a cursory glance at dual-citizenship, ethnicity an religion to see whose bidding our military industrial complex is doing. Certainly not our own.
There is one thing I agree with Omar and that is Israel has too much power in our congress. Everything else she says is fucking retarded.
I don't understand why Trump had to align himself with them, when they ultimately stabbed him in the back to get Biden elected to continue the war mongering / money laundering schemes they are deeply embedded in. I'm guessing Trump did it to win the conservative Evangelical and Jewish vote.
But you make deals with the devil, you're gonna get burned.
Fuentes wanted to be the leader of a serious political movement, but he became a living, breathing LOLcow with his retarded antics like the Catboi video.
Trump has a bad habit of IMMEDIATELY cowering to bad publicity. After selling out that general at the first sight of fake news trouble he signaled that he doesn't have everyone's back. Once elected you have to go scorched earth.
He reacts and responds to EVERYTHING the left wing media throws at him. Just fucking ignore it! Who is this explanation for??? The right doesn’t give a fuck who he meets with and the Left will call him Hitler no matter what. So why fucking bother.
If Nick was any threat at all then he would have been neutralized long ago. The fact that they let him run around acting like a fool helps them discredit any criticism as anti-Semitic.
You think he’s helping when in fact he’s the worst thing that could happen if you ever wanted to make any real progress. Right now it’s all dismissed as the rantings of a nitwit.
Fuentes is a grifter low IQ faggot that appeals only to low IQ faggots. With the steady decline in IQs it's no wonder he has a bunch of faggots following him.
This isn’t something Trump did. It’s something that Kanye sprung on him, and he didn’t want it. Now Kanye is talking shit, you expect Trump to sit and take it?
No. I'm stating that no one gets in who isn't invited. If Trump didn't want them in, he could have turned them away. And certainly no one gets in without being thoroughly checked out.
It is guaranteed that Trump's advisors and security people knew who Fuentes was. Trump himself may not have, but everyone else certainly did.
President Trump's statements on TS are deliberately misleading if not outright false.
You are putting way too much speculation into this, and you are forgetting Trump is a friendly guy. They took advantage of that.
Trumps friend brought friends, he’s not going to be an asshole to his friend/major influencer for no reason. He had no reason to believe this was a set up. The fact that his security may have known who he was means nothing.
Too many here forget, think they know better than Trump how to use the media. If he took the advice of losers all the time he would never had made it to president. Let him do what he knows how to do best.
Too many here forget, think they know better than Trump how to use the media.
Is that why we have Biden in the white house now, even though Trump won? Because everyone trusted how much better he is at all of this. This is some 64-dimensional-badmitten-chess! tRuMp kNoWs dA pLaN. tRuSt tRuMp tA fIx eVeRyThInG!!!!
Good. He's overdue for an ego sheering.
Hard to not get a little hot under the collar
and blinded by the bs when the wool keeps falling over your eyes.
Why not? This isn’t one of those situations where Trump needs to double down on his own decisions. Kanye sprung this on him, and is now talking shit. You can’t just let people walk on you, THAT would be weak.
Trump needs to quit acting like a politician and return to his 2016 self. That's the only reason Ye is running - Trump has watered down his messaging. Stop playing defense!
Like he fucking isn't? Just because he speaks about something you agree with doesn't mean he's not troubled, dummy. That said, I suppose you'd be better off voting for him in '24. Or better yet you can ignore DeSantis' support for Israel too.
No surprise Trump needs distance from Kanye. Kanye is a ticking time bomb. Not to mention he gives out info to the press at the nearest exit. This is what we dont need as much as desantis. I hope everyone is shitting on YE , Nick and Milo before this gets out of hand.
So after two special counsels, NY attorney general, and two impeachments they'll finally get something on Trump now that they sent in Nick Fuentes, the cum hunter
Not sure why there is pro-Kayne sentiment here, he ran against Trump last time? Albiet it was a train wreck. If he was pro Trump he would have gone and supported him instead of running against him?
Who among us lost $2B for speaking truth? "Troubled" would be an understatement. If they are indeed friends, perhaps POTUS can help him out with an official or unofficial role in hus Administration come 2024. Patriots need to stick together because shit hasn't even begun to HTF yet.
I know this isn’t exactly Trumps fault but he’s got to be smarter to distance himself from these kind of people. Fuentes and West are both cringey lunatics even if they are right about one or two things. I think we’re approaching a point where the left doesn’t even have to cheat anymore because they simply dominate the women and young voter demographics over things like this. Conservatives are out of touch with both of these groups and losing the culture war in almost every way.
Absolutely. People are counting on just white men to vote him until the presidency. Not all white men support him, especially moderate conservatives. I don’t know why people don’t get this.
Because most of the white men on this site look down on women, minorities, and young people. They don’t understand the game has radically changed, women and millennial / gen Z are quickly becoming the dominant vote to win. We can cry voter fraud all we want but without these two demographics we will never win. A culture shift and rebranding needs to occur with conservatives.
Cozy.tv/nick is his video platform. He live streams almost every week night. Check out his replays.
There's anti-nick shills all over this site. So congrats to you, for actually seeking additional info. Nick's very smart. Very well read. And has great perspectives. And some of his opinions are offensive to some people. Oh my god, the horror!!
If Trump leaves a narrative alone, the media's spin is the only message out there.
The critical comments here all use the same narrative/buzzword. If that isn't a coordinated shill effort, then it's an impressive display of contagious stupidity. Are people forgetting vintage 2016 Trump taking on everybody at once? The debate where he ended Rand Paul's presidential hopes? Trump is at his best when he's completely unfiltered and controlling his own press.
However, I am PRETTY certain that Trump's security team is top-notch and I HIGHLY doubt anyone is getting into ML for an appt w/ Trump without ALL attendees being vetted and cleared to enter the residence.
No, Kanye definitely isn't. You aren't supposed to be staying relevant because people are watching you destroy your life and shred bridges with people that actually looked out for you.
I agree. "Seriously Troubled," is an excellent description.
Can you imagine what it would be like to be among the cesspool that is Hollywood, to have your ego stroked every day of your life, to be rich and able to buy anything you want, and all the other trappings that go with being rich and famous, and, suddenly, to experience a change of heart, mind, and soul? Then, to try to turn your life toward that change of heart and mind and away from the power of the corrupt?
I think 'seriously troubled' is an excellent description for Kanye
That's what they had the second impeachment for, they would have barred him from office and probably jailed him if he'd pardoned them or Assange.
It was the scumbag Richard grenell who stopped trump from pardoning assange
Trump needs to clean out his advisers
Why did he endorse McCarthy of all people?
So why is Trump not treating the Republican establishment like the hostile enemies they are?
Because he needs them or he has no majority, few friends in courts and no ability to get anything done. Politics is messy, terrible fucking business, but he got a lot done with those damned RINOs and the RINOs are now feeling the heat from he citizens they fucked over.
Trump has massive power he can weild over the Republican party
The house members who voted to impeach are almost all gone. Nobody likes the Republican party, they like Trump
Trump needs to fire the people around him right now telling him to act like Desantis
blame the conservatives voters for NEOCONS
He already grabbed them buy the pussy.
this is what people don't understand. the Russia collusion nonsense was not created as a political weapon by the Democrats it was created by the deep State itself to keep Trump under control..
every Republican in Trump's first two years supported the idea of impeaching him. it was meant to blackmail trump. that if he rocked the boat too hard they would impeach him
personally I think he should have called their bluff and watch the Republican Party burn to the ground forever impeaching their own president who had a higher approval rating than any other Republican member of Congress
but that's what it was about
Good example of what Trump can weather if he just stands strong. Everyone thought that would have ended him, but it didn't
The people want the fighter Trump from 2016
That's the million dollar question
Trump should have fired them all. and gone to war against Republicans almost harder than democrats..
To ask the question is to know the answer.
Beta
Grenell is an open homosexual.
Are you sure it was Grenell and not Pompeo? I was liking Grenell.
EXACTLY the fuckin' problem! Who the hell is supposed to screen visitors? The man is in a goddamned campaign and his moron staff didn't warn him not to take uninvited guests? That is "uninvited guests" who showed up with with a person Trump HIMSELF described as "seriously troubled" fer crying out loud.
[takes deep breath -- counts to ten] OK, I'll shut up now.
Seriously troubled, but Trump invited him.
Unknown, uninvited, "extra" guests... were all vetted by the Secret Service or they would not have been let in...
Who is lying here? How much was known? Why the backtracking now when there is a little bit of flak regarding the JQ? Where is Jared? Is he still advising Trump? If not, who else is that sounds exactly like Jared?
Would be a good running mate, election security is the #1 issue
Where did he say that?
Even if he did, he still doesn't deserve what happened to him after blowing the whistle on Hillary's emails which got trump elected
Show some respect, you scumbag bitch
It doesn't matter what people think, or what viewpoints they have, even if they're viewpoints we dislike. I don't care what his opinions are, or about whom, he's entitled to have them.
Truth should NEVER be punished, and Assange WASN'T the provider of the truth, he was nothing more than the owner of the publisher.. An online newspaper, whose job is to report on issues of public interest. WikiLeaks was and always has been where you could anonymously send whistleblower information.
He provided the portal that shined light on people with real power, and he's paying the price for that - the same with Snowden. They exposed information that is fundamentally against everything I believed our government was for.
the only thing i can find is that assange says there is no dirt on trump bud where did he say that
He didn't, that was probably a Grenell intern
So true
This, right here. This is what Anaconda does: spread baseless lies, just complete nonsense. I think people might be starting to catch on. And your usernames are obvious, Anaconda. ConcreteStairs, CeramicVase, and now WoodenTable. And all the 123 alts, one of which is also in this thread.
Observant. Good job
I am pretty sure I figured out who this guy is. Almost positive he is Travis Allen formerly known here as QLarp. He was flipping out about getting kicked from Truth Social, and then I happened to catch a glimpse of this article. His speech patterns were very familiar.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2022/digital/news/trumps-truth-social-is-banning-users-who-post-about-jan-6-hearings-according-to-reports-1235290726/amp/
He wouldn't explain the context that led to his ban.
It’s not They are different people. Their writing styles are totally different. Little cues come through when you change user names.
Source?
SPEZ: there isn’t one ☝🏼
Handshake or not, this is a valid take
I think that this is why Trump has spoken out against McConnell multiples times.
You’re 100% right.
Lol you moron the republicans and democrats both would have voted to impeach and remove without any significant investigation or opportunity for Trump to defend himself
Then why is Trump playing nice with the Republican establishment?
We need outsider, 2016 Trump
He’s not. You’re a concern troll.
He endorsed McCarthy
McCarthy didn't have his back after the election was rigged
McCarthy is sending our money to Ukraine which is being sent back to our political opponents
So innocent people have to suffer so that Trump cn run in 2024?
Innocents have to suffer in any rebellion against a corrupt regime. It's like rule one. Rule two is nobody gives a shit till feeding kids gets hard.
Trump doesn’t need to sacrifice his political career and his freedom for a bunch of larpers who ran into a trap.
He warned them to stay peaceful and not break the law because the democrats could use it agaisnt them and treat them 100x worse than Antifa. They didn’t listen.
They deserve to be pardoned but there’s no way trump could have done it in January 2020. Saying he could have makes you a retard and probably a shill.
My thing is, what have we done about it? How can we blame Trump when all we have done to help them is argue about it on one small corner of the internet.
You are exceptionally retarded if you actually believe that they “all would have gotten primaried”
Pardoning a massive group of people for unknown crimes while you’re accused of an “insurrection” would not have been popular. It would have made Trump a pariah.
Trump was close to having the GOP support his removal even after he condemned January 6. Everything you say is idealistic nonsense. You sound like Kanye.
Stop internalizing the fake election losses as actual loss of public support
Trump gained massive support in 2020
He would only lose support of the GOP establishment who never stopped hatong him
"it would've made Trump a pariah""
Wow, have you been an npc the past 7 years?? Trump was persona non grata....everywhere. To say those people (some have committed suicide) deserve to rot against our constitution is disgusting.
True, but those J6 people wouldn't be rotting in prisin either.
but they don't let him win and keep trying to jail him anyway. It doesn't help to make excuses, he should have pardoned J6. Those people are being tortured because they defended him, J6 and even Assange.
Why else are they being held but bait for Trump then everyone else? What other purpose other than to stoke outrage?
I doubt so, Trump pardoned Bannon and nothing happened to him for it.
Spot on.
Lincoln pardoned people before any arrests were in action. He could have even if it wasn't binding combined a statement of amnesty with a message of peace blah blah. The political landmine for Biden at that point would have been immense to undermine it and a long court battle.
Lincoln was a tyrant who created the bedrock for much of the govt abuse we now deal with. The foundation for that house of cards was built in 1913. And the rest of the house was built over time. Before Lincoln this would have been built on fucking sand.
Yup. Took me a while to admit this. Always recognized Woodrow Wilson as our biggest mistake, but took me forever to admit that Lincoln built the foundation that allowed Wilson to turn the federal govt into the corporate commie incestuous whatever-you-wanna-call-it political structure we have today in the first place.
I still struggle to concede he foresaw what would come — maybe he genuinely believed in what he was doing and projected himself onto all future leaders (meaning, he couldn’t ever imagine people abusing the power he let into the federal gov), but who knows.
I believe Lincoln didnt intend for this outcome as his plans for right after the war indicated he wanted to take a different direction than what the rest of the government went with.
His actions leading up to the war were still inexcusable and resulted in millions of American deaths without actually accomplishing anything since the south would have likely rejoined the union anyway.
Yup, and just from a business history perspective (actually wrote a paper on this years ago for a business history class), slavery would have ended anyway naturally as a natural force of industrialization. As agrarian south was overtaken by industrialization, even pre civil war, factory managers operated in free-wage (paid) labor, but preferred slaves to their northern laborer free-wage counterparts — so they’d pay plantation owners in their offseason to “rent” the slaves even at a premium/costing more (which they’d have preferred to simply pay directly. Ownership was a huge inconvenience for them, but so was paying their plantation masters to rent their labor).
The same Lincoln who wanted to ship all the slaves back to Africa?
Yes that same Lincoln. Look man a stopped clock is right twice a day and a tyrant is no different.
Knowing what we now know about the courts, how likely do you think it would be that they would uphold some unprecedented blanket pardon of everyone who was at the Capitol on Jan. 6th?
Not a snowball's chance in Hell.
There is a reason why they waited until the illegitimate regime was installed before arresting people.
They started arresting people right away.
How many were arrested before Jan. 20th?
The FBI didn't ramp up their raids until after Biden was installed.
I just counted 21 and I believe there were more, I got tired of looking.
That would have been some trick, being that they hadn’t even been arrested yet. MTG has a fantastic thread on Twitter that calls out people like you for being completely unreasonable, and expecting the impossible.
I'm not saying he doesn't have some points.
But I do think he's troubled, and in a big way.
Ye is right about a lot of things.
Trump could learn a thing or two.
Especially for bringing uninvited guests to Mar-A-Lago.
Who gives a fuck? Since when do we care what the media says
Trump won in 2016 and called Alex Jones ON AIR to thank him.
Where is this Trump? We need him
Yet Trump is not in office. We care because it can give the perception that other people didn't vote for him... making it easier to get away with cheating. See 2020.
Trying to win over swing voters and restore his public image.
Two years out from the election?
He has to rally his base. He has to get rid of the people around him who are republican establishment. They are likely trying to sabotage him
Thousands dine at Mar-a-Lago regularly...
Yet Breitbart is trying to make a thing of Trump eating with an "anti-semite" (Kanye) and a "white nationalist" "holocaust denier" (Nick Fuentes).
The point was that for an outlet that claims to MAGA, they sure jumped to push that narrative really quickly.
EDIT added quotes since it's their words not mine.
breitbart died with Andrew.
Breitbart wants DeSantis.
Neither. I don’t know enough about him to like or hate him. Simply stating that a supposedly “on our side” outlet is Jew first.
Arent we all "seriously troubled" at this point? Have you taken a look at the world around you?
Not like Ye. I don’t think I can be President or I’m God.
………YET 😎
Whoa. Get ready to be down voted.
I had posts shadow banned for saying Kanye was bat shit crazy and not MAGA.
And he literally brought "friends" to get Trump in trouble. Without invitation. Glad Trump set the record straight. And Kanye said Trump yelled at him. Lol.
These very fine people only look out for numero uno, and use their privilege extensively. Case and point - Candace. She threw Trump under the bus the first chance she got.
He (Ye) White Knighted Pete Davidson's ex in his attempt to please his angry masters.
Get Trump in "trouble"?
What kind of man-child attitude is this?
Me too.
He likes fishsticks in his mouth.
Lol
Damn, Trump really really doesn't want to be associated with Nick Fuentes
Exactly. Haha
The average Trump supporter has more in common with Fuentes than any other pundit. And nobody else seems willing to call Trump's flaws out to his face.
I love Nick's stuff. I think you are underestimating.
I have nothing in common with that catboy faggot degenerate fuck outa here.
Yeah, the people who think the electorate has a lot in common with Nick have spent way too much fucking time in the groyper bubble. If that was the case then everyone would be rushing to associate with him, not the other way around.
I really don’t think so. And I kept an open mind and genuinely tried to like Nick Fuentes and appreciate his perspective, but he just comes across as an incredibly immature and hypocritical edgelord.
I also honestly don’t think a single human I interact with in daily life — who are all fairly politically aware — even know who Nick Fuentes is
I consider myself to be extremely politically knowledgeable and spend hours here and I don’t know jack shit about Fuentes other than every time he is brought up people sperg out about catgirls and groypers, which is so fucking esoteric that I’m sure 99% of normies don’t give a fuck about that flavor of autism
He, and his supporters got ran thru long ago here. He is the gangster rap version of lil benji.
Yea the constant freak outs are what finally got me to check him out. First when Elijah Schaffer hosted him a couple years ago maybe? Idk, just don’t see the appeal I guess but also don’t really care, if others are into it then w/e
Kanye was using them to undermine Trump and they are using Kanye for self promotion.
People have to stop gushing over and elevating people just because they support Trump. They usually turn out to be grifters.
When I say things in common, I mean that Fuentes is middle class, went to a normal school, didn't have political connections, etc. He's an insufferable cunt, but he's the closest thing to a normal person Trump has talked to in the last few years.
Serious question: What has Fuentes done for anyone? He is the ultimate media punching bag and he has apparently had extraordinary success making that easy for them. I remember he had a short spell with RSBN before they adopted the earnest, folksy, My Pillow style.
Yet the media barely touches him. Wonder why.
Fuentes says stupid shit and is a degenerate faggot. Now he’s trying to undermine Trump.
That’s all he’s been from day 1. Trying to start his own faction within MAGA.
There are few based comments here.
Or someone set up Ye and used him to set up Trump.
This. You've nailed it.🎯
I'm guessing it was Milo who manipulated Ye into this. He has a massive chip on his shoulder and he's outright stated that his goal is to take down the Trump family.
Milo has always been a raging faggot and a grifter. It was obvious years back on t_d when he tried to grift the entire sub to donate to his buddy. But muh "based faggot" "we have the best faggots don't we guys?"
I have a love/hate relationship with Milo, because he was the person who started my red-pilling process. On one hand I thank him for starting me down this path, but on the other I hate who he’s become.
He “took himself out” by being a little too risqué with his language for the GOP, and then blamed everybody else for it.
The worst thing though was pretending he’s “ex-gay” to grift Christians, because they happen to be the one group who believes being gay is something you can “recover” from. To me that’s unforgivable.
The funny part though is now he’s living the same fraud of a life that he made his career on, when he called out Shaun King for not being black.
It does seem like one huge lie. I always wanted to like Milo but at the end of the day I'd never let him in my house let alone be associated with him.
A couple of years back Milo had a total meltdown on Parler where he called Trump a fraud. Milo also blamed Trump for his life and his career being destroyed and said that he was dedicating his life to getting revenge.
His rhetoric when he was on Timcast the other day was completely different than this.
Dude had nothing but good things to say about Trump when the topic was brought up.
I watched that episode, and yeah, Milo appeared to be in his old form, at least in his attitude toward “daddy” Trump.
It’s tough to tell what’s going on inside that boy’s head.
This opportunity with Ye could have come after he was on Timcast, because I remember thinking it was odd when Ye said Milo was his 2024 campaign manager, and was also the guy who talked him into doing it.
Pretty bizarre to have that come so soon after he had a lot of good stuff to say about GEOTUS on Timcast. Probably a carpe diem moment.
No he isn't. Trump caused him no hardships.
Like those faggots Fuentes and Milo
This
He ate dinner with Kanye, he shouldnt be making excuses for having dinner
Since when do we give a fuck what the media says?
He isn't dipshit. He is saying Kanye instead of coming to him as a friend like Trump thought they were he brought a bunch of faggots to stir up trouble and did exactly that as soon as they left.
He's made three posts about this that say almost the same thing
Why make excuses to a media who hates you?
It’s not the media. It’s Team DeSantis. They’re the ones acting like complete leftists here, and they even pulled the “he dined with a white supremacist and anti-Semite” card.
GEOTUS is clapping back against the supporters of a ghost candidate who hasn’t even signified whether or not he’s running yet.
Dang, I can feel the unity among the base already.
Ye said it himself.
No shit he doesn't want to be associated with the cum-hunting catboy.
Fuentes is a fucking weirdo. Trump has nothing to gain and everything to lose from having anything to do with him.
Nick Fuentes represents the people that backed Trump up and defended him but were left in the dust. He also represents the revival of America First. As much as Trump got the ball rolling, he seemed to push away his greater allies while only hiring swamp retard liars and constantly aligning himself with Israel and Israel doesn’t have our best intentions.
Dude is a loser and a grifter.
Like the left the right is infested with scammers and larpers. Like black rifle coffee who some are grifters same for many, sometimes saying stupid shit is stupid an if you want to be president you can’t have a bunch of far right folks who may be right about a lot of things but still you can’t win on a far right platform. You need the middle. Trump has to deal with the swamp, yes he’s very naive sometimes but he needs to play the game. Having nick and Ye who might start saying shit that could sink trump is not worth the risk.
This so much. You will probably get downvoted to hell for stating these absolute facts.
Nah, Nick, I contribute to my community and have integrity.
I thought Nick Fuentes just represented pimple-faced zoomers who spend too much time on 4chan.
Fuentes is a 4chan kid who represents hardly anyone and is politically toxic. His AFPAC was a total flop and he only got MGT there by pure deception and she immediately disavowed him. Trump is politically naive, but avoiding Fuentes is a no-brainer.
Well I agree with that much. It's totally unacceptable that any voting American thinks the ZOG is some kinda KKK conspiracy when all it takes is a cursory glance at dual-citizenship, ethnicity an religion to see whose bidding our military industrial complex is doing. Certainly not our own.
There is one thing I agree with Omar and that is Israel has too much power in our congress. Everything else she says is fucking retarded.
I don't understand why Trump had to align himself with them, when they ultimately stabbed him in the back to get Biden elected to continue the war mongering / money laundering schemes they are deeply embedded in. I'm guessing Trump did it to win the conservative Evangelical and Jewish vote.
But you make deals with the devil, you're gonna get burned.
^ 💯
Fuentes wanted to be the leader of a serious political movement, but he became a living, breathing LOLcow with his retarded antics like the Catboi video.
Yeah, he did well for a while, especially for his age... but it's impossible to take him seriously. maybe when he's older
Reading about how 'toxic' he is I realize we should have Atomic number flair/emoji.
Your name and opinion don't match.
Fuentes is a grifting faggot with catboy tendencies who only became relevant by riding the coattails of MAGA.
Is the target a cock his faggot ass can land on?
Trump has a bad habit of IMMEDIATELY cowering to bad publicity. After selling out that general at the first sight of fake news trouble he signaled that he doesn't have everyone's back. Once elected you have to go scorched earth.
He reacts and responds to EVERYTHING the left wing media throws at him. Just fucking ignore it! Who is this explanation for??? The right doesn’t give a fuck who he meets with and the Left will call him Hitler no matter what. So why fucking bother.
The republican establishment cares about Fuentes. THey're terrified of him getting a major platform to speak on.
Again. Trump needs to focus on his base! FUCK WHAT THE GOP ESTABLISHMENT THINKS!
Edit: Is GOP establishment code for “elitist Jews”?
Yes. The DNC, even more so.
He can’t When with just his base voting for him. Grow up.
We he ain’t whenning shit if he loses his base!
If Nick was any threat at all then he would have been neutralized long ago. The fact that they let him run around acting like a fool helps them discredit any criticism as anti-Semitic.
You think he’s helping when in fact he’s the worst thing that could happen if you ever wanted to make any real progress. Right now it’s all dismissed as the rantings of a nitwit.
Fuentes is a grifter low IQ faggot that appeals only to low IQ faggots. With the steady decline in IQs it's no wonder he has a bunch of faggots following him.
Yes, but they hate MAGA too, so fuck them and their pearl clutching.
Exactly
You don’t just let people walk on you like this.
This isn’t something Trump did. It’s something that Kanye sprung on him, and he didn’t want it. Now Kanye is talking shit, you expect Trump to sit and take it?
Except his entire tone is defensive and cowed. He's always responding to this shit from the back foot.
Something Kanye "sprung" on him when his guests all have to be checked out and vetted by the Secret Service? Riiiggghhtt...
Pull the other one...
Kanye was invited, and surprised Trump by bringing his friends.
Then he has the balls to disrespect Trump with a VP offer. You honestly telling me Trump wanted them to come in and talk shit?
No. I'm stating that no one gets in who isn't invited. If Trump didn't want them in, he could have turned them away. And certainly no one gets in without being thoroughly checked out.
It is guaranteed that Trump's advisors and security people knew who Fuentes was. Trump himself may not have, but everyone else certainly did.
President Trump's statements on TS are deliberately misleading if not outright false.
You are putting way too much speculation into this, and you are forgetting Trump is a friendly guy. They took advantage of that.
Trumps friend brought friends, he’s not going to be an asshole to his friend/major influencer for no reason. He had no reason to believe this was a set up. The fact that his security may have known who he was means nothing.
How are the statements misleading?
He is taking it.
You must live in an alternate universe because you see bullshit.
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Stop playing the game and trying to explain yourself to the mob. These defensive statements feel weak to me.
Too many here forget, think they know better than Trump how to use the media. If he took the advice of losers all the time he would never had made it to president. Let him do what he knows how to do best.
Is that why we have Biden in the white house now, even though Trump won? Because everyone trusted how much better he is at all of this. This is some 64-dimensional-badmitten-chess! tRuMp kNoWs dA pLaN. tRuSt tRuMp tA fIx eVeRyThInG!!!!
lol you sound mentally ill
Oh God. If I could upvote you a thousand times I would.
They are weak.
Trump used to not give a fuck. Now he's a politician doing damage control. Pretty weak.
Kanye said he's gonna run for president in '24 lol.
Good. He's overdue for an ego sheering. Hard to not get a little hot under the collar and blinded by the bs when the wool keeps falling over your eyes.
He ran in 2020 and failed miserably yet here we are.
I might vote for him.
Holy shit, it’s not the fucking media here. It’s Team DeSantis trying to kneecap him with this, and DeSantis isn’t even running (yet).
Is DeSantis in the room with us now?
Has DeSantis said anything about this, or just the RINOs trying to make us attack him for no reason?
Retards think DeSantis is King Rino because the Rinos are backing him as an alternative to Trump.
DeSantis isn't running against Trump. Period. Take it to the bank.
No.
It's called "staying in the news cycle" and it's Trump's specialty. Keep your name in the news no matter what.
The saying bad publicity is better than no publicity at all is a proven falsehood.
Why not? This isn’t one of those situations where Trump needs to double down on his own decisions. Kanye sprung this on him, and is now talking shit. You can’t just let people walk on you, THAT would be weak.
Trump needs to quit acting like a politician and return to his 2016 self. That's the only reason Ye is running - Trump has watered down his messaging. Stop playing defense!
West ran in 2020 too. Him running again has nothing to do with Trump, despite what him and his sycophants will tell you.
Shame he didn't announce his stance like Cube did :D
it’s best not to offend them while trying to be “mainstream”
At this point, FUCK THEM.
yes.
Like he fucking isn't? Just because he speaks about something you agree with doesn't mean he's not troubled, dummy. That said, I suppose you'd be better off voting for him in '24. Or better yet you can ignore DeSantis' support for Israel too.
I believe Trump on this a lot more than Kanye especially since he is dragging around that fuentes faggot.
No surprise Trump needs distance from Kanye. Kanye is a ticking time bomb. Not to mention he gives out info to the press at the nearest exit. This is what we dont need as much as desantis. I hope everyone is shitting on YE , Nick and Milo before this gets out of hand.
But they're not...
lol optics.
Still playing by faggot rules. Keep going bud. You'll get em' next time!
So after two special counsels, NY attorney general, and two impeachments they'll finally get something on Trump now that they sent in Nick Fuentes, the cum hunter
Why does trump post shit like this? It just makes him look fucking weak and the left will use against him. He should only attack the left
Yeah I get it, but if he just ignored, it would’ve been a better approach
Source.
Exactly. His only statement should have been: "Dinner was lovely. Mar-A-Lago has the best dinner chefs in America."
It’s malice or incompetence that all of the people around Trump didn’t figure out it was Fuentes and send him away or cancel the dinner,
Either way who is he hiring that this gets through?
Not sure why there is pro-Kayne sentiment here, he ran against Trump last time? Albiet it was a train wreck. If he was pro Trump he would have gone and supported him instead of running against him?
This but unironically.
We have the same enemies.
He speaks gibberish.
Seriously fucking uncool of Ye to bring uninvited guests.
I've grown very tired of Kanye West.
Everyone’s reacting like this is really bad and blah blah blah
But consider:
Trump and Kanye. Two people the media/establishment have worked to freeze out of of the spotlight
Trump (and Kanye) knows better than any the importance publicity.
So the two biggest dogs who have been kicked out of the kennel get into a feud.
Who do people watch? The boring controlled circus in front of them? Or the dog fight going on?
Thank you. ⬆️
You can’t just let people walk into your home and take advantage of you, then talk shit the next day.
Who among us lost $2B for speaking truth? "Troubled" would be an understatement. If they are indeed friends, perhaps POTUS can help him out with an official or unofficial role in hus Administration come 2024. Patriots need to stick together because shit hasn't even begun to HTF yet.
Yeesh! What a clusterfuck!
I know this isn’t exactly Trumps fault but he’s got to be smarter to distance himself from these kind of people. Fuentes and West are both cringey lunatics even if they are right about one or two things. I think we’re approaching a point where the left doesn’t even have to cheat anymore because they simply dominate the women and young voter demographics over things like this. Conservatives are out of touch with both of these groups and losing the culture war in almost every way.
What was unclear to you?
Absolutely. People are counting on just white men to vote him until the presidency. Not all white men support him, especially moderate conservatives. I don’t know why people don’t get this.
Because most of the white men on this site look down on women, minorities, and young people. They don’t understand the game has radically changed, women and millennial / gen Z are quickly becoming the dominant vote to win. We can cry voter fraud all we want but without these two demographics we will never win. A culture shift and rebranding needs to occur with conservatives.
Kanye is the same person he’s always been, a pot stirrer. He just switches from pot to pot and y’all follow him. His drama is tiring.
Yep.
I take a 2 hour nap and shit goes absolutely fucking nuts.
I keep reading the name Nick Fuentes but I don't know anything about him. Does he have a website, or any sort of videos to watch / things to read?
And does he have any relation to Daisy?
Cozy.tv/nick is his video platform. He live streams almost every week night. Check out his replays.
There's anti-nick shills all over this site. So congrats to you, for actually seeking additional info. Nick's very smart. Very well read. And has great perspectives. And some of his opinions are offensive to some people. Oh my god, the horror!!
He’s a little ugly big mouthed prick.
If Trump leaves a narrative alone, the media's spin is the only message out there.
The critical comments here all use the same narrative/buzzword. If that isn't a coordinated shill effort, then it's an impressive display of contagious stupidity. Are people forgetting vintage 2016 Trump taking on everybody at once? The debate where he ended Rand Paul's presidential hopes? Trump is at his best when he's completely unfiltered and controlling his own press.
He’s changed in the past seven years.
Wow, almost like he was right about the powers that be.
Kanye did Trump dirty. Fuck Kanye
However, I am PRETTY certain that Trump's security team is top-notch and I HIGHLY doubt anyone is getting into ML for an appt w/ Trump without ALL attendees being vetted and cleared to enter the residence.
who is he talking to? who gives a fuck what breitbart puts on their faggot website
They are both experts at staying relevant.
This is the good type of controversy.
You aren't very intelligent if you think this is a good look for Trump
No, Kanye definitely isn't. You aren't supposed to be staying relevant because people are watching you destroy your life and shred bridges with people that actually looked out for you.
If I invited someone to my house and they brought three other people I'd be livid.
I agree. "Seriously Troubled," is an excellent description.
Can you imagine what it would be like to be among the cesspool that is Hollywood, to have your ego stroked every day of your life, to be rich and able to buy anything you want, and all the other trappings that go with being rich and famous, and, suddenly, to experience a change of heart, mind, and soul? Then, to try to turn your life toward that change of heart and mind and away from the power of the corrupt?
Who wouldn't be seriously troubled?