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Belleoffreedom 154 points ago +154 / -0

It's about time we had a robust discussion about all kinds of issues.

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Barack-Obama2 60 points ago +67 / -7

How about we discuss robust cocks?

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Haitianbychoice360 58 points ago +58 / -0

Yes. Yes. We KNOW Barry.

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jpower 4 points ago +5 / -1

Big Mike nods at Barry

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 33 points ago +33 / -0

You're my favorite bologna yodeler, Barry.

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FreakinRican82 12 points ago +12 / -0

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You're name is hilarious 🤣☠

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 8 points ago +8 / -0

Have an Arby's beef'n'cheddar in my honor.

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MasklessMarvel 5 points ago +5 / -0

you fucker!

i love those but I now I will never be able to look at one again!

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godstopper90 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hope Solo?

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GlacialSpeed 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's been YEARS and I still go "wait, wtf?".

Then I see the username.

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SomaliSwede_RapeBaby 5 points ago +5 / -0

The consequences of rigging ERECTIONS…

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Retardloserimsogay 3 points ago +3 / -0

Username cracks me up

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CommieCucker 3 points ago +3 / -0

did you lose Barack-Obama in the Great Login Purge?

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bubadmt 10 points ago +10 / -0

We need to discuss the problem of black violence first.

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MasklessMarvel -1 points ago +1 / -2

agreed

there just isn't enough of it

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bubadmt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Look Bob, here’s the deal.

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BoogieNight 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's about time the lies of the radical left get flagged for misinformation.

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day221 3 points ago +4 / -1

Musk won't do that because he's a piece of shit. Conservatives are owed compensation for what his company did to them but he won't do anything. He'll suck up to the left when Google and Apple threaten to remove twitter from the app store. That and he'll be completely undermined by the employees for years and accomplish nothing for conservatives since he bought a shit platform and doesnt have the balls or political intelligence to do what is needed to fight back.

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Shakyrob 1 point ago +1 / -0

He wont do what we think because he's openly socialist. Not a communist inclined one and neither party likes the other; but at the end of the day he is still a socialist.

I figure they are gonna delete all the bot stuff on the way out. He will need to get rid of all the child porn and various trafficking set ups. I can see them coming after him with their soros backed courts in that regard. While the bolshevik media REEEEEs about it and points the finger at Musk like it was only around because of him. Meanwhile all the TDS loons will jump ship and REEEEE about how it isn't fair and he's ended free speech and the usual insane lefty "talking points". Atypical projecting.

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GreatestAmericanHero 79 points ago +81 / -2

This is a direct assault on our democracy!

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PosterIsDead 34 points ago +34 / -0

I love that one. We aren't one and we don't have one.

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K-Harbour 23 points ago +24 / -1

But, it is a direct assault on THEIR democracy.

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x79q3pb 7 points ago +8 / -1

And they desperately want a democracy (mob rule) because well... through the media they control the mob.

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Zepp87 2 points ago +2 / -0

And through fraud they maintain the majority

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MR_ROBOT1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

And if we did, you would be forced to listen to all speech rather than ban it.

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JesusPay 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is a direct assault on our democracy!

our democracy

our

I know what "our" means here, just like "we own the science".

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GreatestAmericanHero 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup, like we're just along for the ride, as in dragging us by a rope from our own car that we worked for... while morons who can't figure out which bathroom to use drive us off a cliff.

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leakmouth 7 points ago +8 / -1

Freedom of speech is an assault on free speech

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Make America Great Again will destroy America

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FredRedd 2 points ago +2 / -0

And a direct rescue of our Republic!

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BabbleRabble 74 points ago +74 / -0

Reporters dont fear free speech - Propagandists do.

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Skogin 9 points ago +9 / -0

Activist Agents

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My2Cents 38 points ago +38 / -0

Doubt handover will be complete before elections.

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 30 points ago +31 / -1

Exactly this. There's VERY little complexity to twitter. 99.9% of its running costs are just bandwidth and CPU. The software itself hasn't had to change in almost a decade.

I've written numerous forum and chat apps. Takes an afternoon.

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fskfsk 11 points ago +11 / -0

The value of Twitter is that it already has the users. People like to say "scaling is hard!" but once you have millions of users it isn't that hard to add extra servers and make sure you can handle the load.

The reason Twitter doesn't have only 10 employees is empire-building by executives. "Managed a 200 person team" looks better on a resume than "managed 10 people".

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BringTheCat789 5 points ago +5 / -0

The reason Twitter doesn't have only 10 employees is because, once a company starts to get some success, they hire HR to protect themselves from sorts of legal action. Once HR gets involved in the hiring/firing process, nearly all new employees will be useless. Not just because HR hires based on race and mental illness (although that is a significant portion of it), but because HR doesn't know shit about who makes a good engineer. Moreover, they need to have objective criteria for hiring and firing to mitigate potential legal action, which makes selecting a candidate worthless. You end up hiring people with degrees who just don't get it, instead of the people who don't have a degree, and maybe don't have experience, but really understand what's going on and what needs to be done.

So now they hire more people, but the little amount of work there is still isn't getting done, so they hire even more people, and it just keeps inflating. Nobody ever gets fired.

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fskfsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is also why the founders and early employees get forced out of the company as it grows.

If you have any "objective" hiring criteria, that means you have to ask every candidate the same questions. What happens eventually is that candidates come to the interview knowing the questions already, either because they know a friend that interviewed there or someone on the inside leaked the questions+answers to them.

The only solution I can think of is owning your own business and keeping it small. Most nondiscrimination laws only kick in once you reach a certain size. If a business is small enough that the owner can interview everyone, that will keep out the dead weight.

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BringTheCat789 1 point ago +1 / -0

The solution is to abolish anti-discrimination laws. They are bogus. The federal government has no constitutional authority to control who a business hires.

The Supreme Court agreed the first time they tried to pass such laws. Then they tried again once the Supreme Court was a bit more poz'd, and they went along with it.

The justification is that a business not hiring a black man somehow "affects interstate commerce," even if it is a completely local business, hiring locally, and selling locally. Makes no sense.

But even if we're talking about multi-state businesses who do participate in interstate commerce, clearly the commerce clause in the constitution wasn't written to give the federal government complete control over any business that happens to sell things across state lines. It was clearly written so the federal government could settle disputes between states and ensure that interstate commerce was viable (such as by providing a common currency).

It's like if I hired you to be in charge of my business's computer network, and gave you specific, but exclusive, authority to do anything you need to do to maintain that network. You could run CAT5 cable, install a network switch, and even install drivers for network adapters on the individual computers. But if you went on each computer and installed candy crush because some employees wanted to play it, that's clearly not within your authority. Just because a computer is "on the network" doesn't mean you get unlimited authority over it by virtue of being in charge of the network.

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fskfsk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Getting the anti-discrimination laws repealed is not realistic or feasible anytime soon. My solution (own a business and keep it small) is the best option given the circumstances.

A better analogy would be you hire someone to maintain the computer network, give them authority to do what's needed, and then they control every other aspect of your business because that "indirectly affects the computer network". I.e., they insist on controlling every sales call because that "indirectly affects the computer network". They want complete control of the accounting records because that "indirectly affects the computer network", etc.

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VoidWanderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

You also should never go publically traded. The moment you do that it's no longer your company no matter how small it is. You are beholden to shareholders and the now forced "ESG" scores.

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fskfsk 1 point ago +1 / -0

The second you take money from any outside investor, you become beholden to them. Either you own 100% of the equity in your business, or your investors will find some loophole clause in the contract to screw you.

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when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +1 / -0

The people they hire are censors. They are worried they will be out of a job.

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 3 points ago +4 / -1

Exactly this. And once you've automated your server set-up and tear-down process, usually the servers don't even require human interaction.

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x79q3pb 4 points ago +5 / -1

<HyperV has crashed in the chat>

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CyberSecGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

<HyperV gets replaced by docker and deployed to AWS/Azure>

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 1 point ago +1 / -0

Duck Amazon

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 0 points ago +1 / -1

VMWare 4 lyfe.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

the value of twitter is that it is embedded deeply into our society

it is the great equalizer that allows politicians, celebs etc to talk to their supporters and for their supporters to talk back

it let's Joe Basement make his opinion heard by millions

probably the scariest thing is that it has become the foundation of journalism

every story you is either based on or includes references to tweets

sometimes the tweet is the story (COVFEFE)

Trump knew this and he played twitter like a concert violinist

the commies know it too and that's why they make their ham fisted attempts at censoring it

Elon knows it too and he knows taking it private and getting rid of the censorship will be a huge kick in the nuts to Big Brother Biden

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fskfsk 1 point ago +1 / -0

But HOW did Twitter become "deeply embedded into our society"? Do remember when news programs and tv shows started saying "follow us on Twitter"? That was all free advertising for Twitter. It was safe free advertising, because Twitter was a member of the media cartel and co-controlled and co-owned by them. If you had to pay for advertising for your own service to get promoted as much as Twitter was, you probably would have to pay more than Twitter's market capitalization to get the same amount of advertising reach that Twitter got for free.

They did the same thing when they say "Follow us on FaceBook".

Twitter can never have enough revenue to justify its valuation. The value of Twitter is the ability to control information and not any cash profits.

That's also why it's "unfair" for Elon Musk to buy Twitter. The commie media cartel put all that effort into propping up and promoting Twitter, and Elon Musk is "stealing" all that sweat equity by purchasing it and making it no longer censored.

It also is how pretty much every big tech media monopoly worked (reddit, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube). When they first started, they were open and welcoming to everyone. Once they had a monopoly, they started cracking down and censoring. Now that there are a ton of established incumbents, it's a LOT HARDER to start a new tech media monopoly.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

But HOW did Twitter become "deeply embedded into our society"?

by becoming the foundation of and source for almost all journalism

Twitter re-purposes information into bite sized talking points for journalists who forgot how to think for themselves.

If you're a reporter at CNN and you can't figure out where to stand on something, Twitter makes it easy

It is easier to read tweets than to actually dig up a story

and they can create "proof" of whatever lies you want to spew

Try to find a story that is not based on or backed up by a tweet

somehow tweets have become immutable truth

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Eatinglue 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gotta get rid of the employees manipulating algorithms and censoring accounts though.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wouldn't it be content storage being the most costly?

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not anymore, no. Consider twatter, for example. 280 characters per message. Round that up to 350 bytes pretending we're going to store things like user ID, timestamp, and various metrics with it.

A terabyte is 1,099,511,627,776 bytes. But let's say we want to store the messages in triplicate (RAID or whatnot layout) for backup purposes. That 350 is now 1050 bytes. So that one terabyte can store 1,047,153,931 messages. That's 3 messages for every man, woman, child, and baby in the United States. For a single terabyte.

A single terabyte on a solid state harddisk (more expensive than mechanical drives) is currently $100. For a single month of bandwidth, (roughly $500K), I can make a one-time purchase of enough harddrive space to store 15,000 messages for every human in the United States. And that's on expensive SSDs.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah where do you put all those drives, Hillary Clinton's closet?

You vastly underestimate the existing content and how much each message and metadata takes to store. It's not google levels of data, but it's way more than going down to bestbuy for some ssds.

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 1 point ago +3 / -2

You vastly underestimate my knowledge of the direct inner workings of Twitter, and what, EXACTLY that metadata looks like.

But keep right on being wrong, smart boy.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh you work at Twitter? You either do or you're wrong, so prove it.

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catvideos3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are slutty singles in my area ready to chat now?

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MasklessMarvel -2 points ago +0 / -2

so why the hell was the Truth launch such a total disaster?

people still can't access

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 1 point ago +1 / -0

These people are over simplifing everything. They made a small hobby app and now think they know how to do it all.

The big problem with scaling is that when your small a few milliseconds don't matter much. When you scale up a few miliseconds saved can save you entire servers.

Plus you have to split your code up to be deployed across multiple different servers and sometimes in unexpected places.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump bragged that he hired top weenies from other social media companies

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CnnWillBlackmailYou -1 points ago +1 / -2

They simply didn't account for a LOT of shit. For instance, servers/bandwidth alone can run half a million dollars a month for a social network of any size. If you aren't taking optimization and expandability into account on day one, good luck to ya.

I've seriously thought about writing my own twatter clone for fun, but the problem is the cost of keeping it running if it DOES become popular. Sites like that, just by their nature, lose millions before they become profitable. You've got to gain a significant following before you can get ad revenue.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

according to Trump he hired some top computer weenies from other social media companies

and Rumble provides the infrastructure

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 1 point ago +2 / -1

Without taking a look at what's under the hood (the javascript would be telling, but I've not bothered poking around at it) I can't really guess what their real core problems were.

I will say that REPEATEDLY I've seen people try to spin these things up, and their biggest problem is that there's no way to test for "real world" without just throwing it in front of the users. Then they end up getting blasted.

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FitOfficial 5 points ago +7 / -2

Give me twenty fucking minutes and I'll obliterate every blacklist and whitelist in their company.

For a small bonus I'll cut off the backdoor access for government contractors.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 2 points ago +4 / -2

Could you NOT cut off back door access, and track the fuckers who are using it?

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's in the DB and the answer is "all of them".

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 1 point ago +1 / -0

Backdoors aren't in use all the time. Only on demand.

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My2Cents 1 point ago +1 / -0

...after Musk takes formal control. How long will that take?

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

It would take days, if the employees gate keeping the code weren't political activists themselves. Some will take it up on themselves to delay and sabotage such efforts, believing more in their purpose as guardians of the democratic party than software engineers.

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Klaus73 2 points ago +2 / -0

I expect a catastrophic infrastructure issue on twitter or eitger rogue dev causing a issue - or a legal battle over some software aspect/ownership itself

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ForceMultiplier 1 point ago +1 / -0

the digital records equivalent of a paper shredder are probably running at warp speed right now. Also record retention rules are probably being tightened and any of the censuring type are now furiously job hunting again, so their ability to influence the elections this time around will be diminished.

BleachBit "stifles investigation" of Hillary Clinton

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GodKingHarambe 31 points ago +31 / -0

Every 2-3 weeks I appeal my ban from 2020 just to force them into re-reading my posts.

I will include links to stories about Elon promising free-speech platform or the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals stating social media can't censor or the SCOTUS taking up the Section 230 Protections.

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GodKingHarambe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Harambe smiles down upon us all, lad.

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havax 4 points ago +4 / -0

I like to appeal my permaban every once in awhile too just so I can call them a bunch of pussy snowflakes.

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GodKingHarambe 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is the way.

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

when Elon complete his coup, I predict a major push by the dems to get rid of Section 230

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TommyJarvis 18 points ago +24 / -6

Anyone who thinks Elon is going to actually control Twitter and turn it into a free speech haven is a complete retard.

If the government pulled its financial and legal support from Twitter, which they would certainly do if it weren’t strictly a government tool of narrative control, it would fail in a month.

Twitter is a laughably unprofitable business. It only continues to exist because it’s a de facto branch of the government.

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TOPDAWG23 17 points ago +17 / -0

Who gives a s*** about any of that the fact is the left is about to lose their main propaganda tool. Be happy about it.

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Train_w_no_brakes 1 point ago +1 / -0

The culture is definitely less of a propaganda tool compared to twitter!!

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justicein2020 0 points ago +1 / -1

main? lol.

they're not losing tv...

a new social media site will be the thing they show on tv all the time. it will replace alt-right twitter in no time.

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TOPDAWG23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even the tv shit comes from Twitter all the young execs think what is on Twitter is real and puts it on media. All of them want to be twitter famous now.

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TommyJarvis -1 points ago +1 / -2

Doubt it.

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BoogieNight 9 points ago +9 / -0

Whats to doubt, Musk fucking hates woke culture and when a bunch of Tesla employees wrote him a letter to stop tweeting controversial subjects he rounded them all up and had them fired. Musk is exactly what Twitter needs. And lets not forget his pledge to turn Twitters San Francisco office into a homeless shelter after firing everyone there since they don't show up to work anyway. Make twitter great again, and get Big Don to double post on truth and twitter again, restore all 88 million of Big Don's followers and remove the 120 million bots following Obama. Time to take out the trash. If I were musk, I'd just ban China from participating outright. Geo fence ban for all China-bound IP addresses, that'll clean up 100 million leftist communist bots overnight. Fire up the helicopters gentlemen. There's much work to be done before the primaries! It's time to declare communism as a terrorist organization working to undermine America's freedom. That means ban all google accounts from twitter too. Lots of trash to send to the dumpster.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

he gave CA the big "fuck you" and moved Tesla out of state

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Aambrick 1 point ago +1 / -0

At least 20-40 million. That is still large enough to influence people. Take that much out and people will have around 30% or higher of talking to actual people and get more than a echo chamber.

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BoogieNight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, and the nice thing about the truth is it stands head and shoulders above 10,000 lies. The truth is a sore thumb. It's the most jagged of suppositories. People know it when they finally hear it.

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x79q3pb 3 points ago +4 / -1

Elon has already hinted along these lines, and mentioned that the twitter platform is just to form a part of the X Everything App. I don't think anyone knows what that fully means yet, but it seems social is just a small aspect of it, and to have the twitter users and the tech, it cuts out a great deal of dev and imbedding time for whatever X is.

At the very least, with Elon on a platform he can't get banned from, we should get some spicy posts to meme about.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

i hope his X Everything App fares better than Truth

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BringTheCat789 3 points ago +3 / -0

Twitter is a laughably unprofitable business.

That's because its ran by a bunch of retards. They have a user base, they just fail to monetize it because they are retarded.

The issue with Musk's takeover is that Twitter has now forced off so much of their user base, and now has found itself with a pool of leftists. This is fine from a financial perspective, you can still monetize leftists (again, if those running Twitter weren't retarded), But when Musk takes over, I believe many of these users will leave, and he will only be able to attract so many conservatives who were displaced, as most won't bother giving the platform a second chance. So the user base will greatly shrink.

All the better, though. Twitter will shrink to nothing, but will never close completely. I'd rather a small free-speech platform than a big censored platform.

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just bring Trump back online, blow him if you have to, and boom success.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +2 / -2

twitter has not forced anyone off and no one has been displaced

there are still brazillions of conservatives on there

how do you think catturd, libs of tik tok etc are so will liked there?

why do you think the leftists are so maniacal about controlling content?

the only conservatives i hear throwing fits about twitter are the nut jobs on here

Twitter will shrink to nothing

stop listening to that Truth marketing shit

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WhitePowerRanger 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean. They forced trump off

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MostEffectualTopKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

They also force accounts like catturd and libsoftiktok to walk a very fine line, ones that the left don't have to.

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BringTheCat789 1 point ago +1 / -0

Twitter has not forced anyone off and no one has been displaced.

Haha. There are shitloads of people who use to use Twitter who no longer do. There are many who are outright banned and there are even more who, like me, just won't use the platform anymore after realizing it's just not worth supporting for what they're offering.

I still use Facebook because Facebook offers far more for me, even though I know I'm supporting a company I hate by using it. Twitter doesn't. Twitter's product is worse than Facebook's. Censorship on Facebook also isn't quite as detrimental as censorship on a micro-blogging website like Twitter. Twitter's whole thing is being a free-flowing stream of thoughts. Facebook, on the other hand, offers far more that is actually used, with groups for every thing you can think of, including local, neighborhood groups. While I believe all censorship is bad, it's still apparent that some censorship is worse pragmatically than others.

how do you think catturd, libs of tik tok etc are so will liked there?

Because there are still many conservatives there. I'm not saying all conservatives are gone. But I'm saying that many have left and won't return.

the only conservatives i hear throwing fits about twitter are the nut jobs on here

Really? How often do you talk to conservatives in real life? How often do you ask what their opinion of Twitter is?

Truth marketing shit

Huh?

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

"Shit loads," "many," - these are meaningless terms

What are the percentages?

Farcebook is losing its ass. Primarily because it is losing its value as a marketing tool

It is not even comparable to twitter because, in order to interact, you have to join a group or friend someone.

twitter does not limit you to communicating only with followers, you can blast stuff out for everyone to see and anyone can talk to you

this also helps it to avoid becoming an echo chamber like Truth Truth Truth

twitter lacks a group function but you can make lists and share them

the censorship thing is not as bad as everyone says. unless you are a prime target, the algorithm focuses on words

"Tranny" and "groomer" will get your pee pee slapped so just alternate terms. It sucks but you can still get the message out

as far as being reported, if you can't outsmart liberals you have no business on the interwebz

even people who leave in a huff use twitter. there will eventually be a news article or a post that entices them to click on a tweet

there is not a conservative out there that does not know that twitter is a biased commie mouthpiece but that does not make them run and hide like pussies

that "twitter will shrink to nothing" shit is right out of Trump's mouth

love the guy but he does have a penchant for self aggrandizement

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BringTheCat789 1 point ago +1 / -0

Farcebook is losing its ass.

They are still immensely profitable. They aren't meeting revenue projections, but they are still very profitable. This makes sense considering there is more competition nowadays (not just alt tech, which is barely a blip on their radar at this point, but just more options. At one point Facebook and Twitter were all "normies" used, after Myspace died. Nowadays we have Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, etc.)

It is not even comparable to twitter because, in order to interact, you have to join a group or friend someone.

This is one difference. How exactly does this difference make Twitter not viable to generate profit versus Facebook?

Twitter does not limit you to communicating only with followers

Neither does Facebook. You can post publicly on Facebook, and anyone that searches you will see it. You can leave comments on Facebook, and anyone on that post will see it. How is this different than Twitter, where you can post publicly, but the only way people will find it is if they visit your profile, follow you, or see you in the replies? Because of hashtags and the ability to search things like that? Facebook has similar mechanisms. I regularly search for things on Facebook and find people's posts, often times in public groups I am not in.

Yes, there are differences, but how exactly do these differences make Twitter not viable?

the censorship thing is not as bad as everyone says.

It's pretty damn bad. It's bad enough that it's singlehandedly moving the country farther left on average, which leads you to think it's not bad. Jokes I use to be able to make on social media with no issue will now quickly get you an actual ban, or suspension. What this leads to is fewer of these jokes on the platform where people can see them. Then when someone does make one of these jokes, it's off-putting for those listening because it's no longer the norm. These platforms and their censorship did that, and these effects extend off their platform.

the algorithm is focused on words

Sure, I can trick the algorithm by rewording my joke or observation, but many won't put in the extra effort. This means that, sure, I can pretty much tweet any thought I have, but there will be fewer people doing it. It changes what is the "norm" and in a big way. These social media companies have huge power of public perception.

even people who leave in a huff use twitter

Clicking on a tweet or news article is far different from having it on your daily rotation of apps you visit just for the sake of passing time. There is a reason these sites focus so much effort on retention. They want you coming to the site and staying on it.

This is actually something Twitter struggles with and could absolutely do better, if they put the right people in who know how to do it. If Elon identifies this problem and puts the right people on it, Twitter could do well because of exactly these people. The key is to get the people who click on a tweet from a news article to be enticed by something else on Twitter, so they click that next, then so on. Right now Twitter fails at this.

leaving twitter means you're running and hiding like a pussy

Really? Is that what boycotting is? I don't like Walmart, either, but does that mean I'm a pussy for not shopping there because, instead, I should shop there, but scream aloud all the reasons I don't like it while I'm there?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are still immensely profitable

eh, not so much

Headlines

Mark Zuckerberg’s net worth slashed by $71B — more than half — this year alone

Bloomberg Reports Meta To Reduce Headcount, Cut Budgets In 2023

Meta withdraws internship offers after scrapping its full UK program for this year

Facebook laying off 12,000 employees

How exactly does this difference make Twitter not viable to generate profit versus Facebook?

I was talking about functionally

anyone that searches you will see it. You can leave comments on Facebook, and anyone on that post will see it. How is this different than Twitter, where you can post publicly, but the only way people will find it is if they visit your profile, follow you, or see you in the replies?

on twitter you don't have to search or be on a post

if I reply to a tweet, everyone else reading the tweet can see it

that's big time when the reply is to a well known person

i can use a hashtag and everyone searching on that hashtag can see it. If you hit a trend they do not even have to search

i don't use it but there is an option to show you tweets from your area

and people can read my public lists without following me

Yes, there are differences, but how exactly do these differences make Twitter not viable?

did you mean Facebook?

It's pretty damn bad. It's bad enough that it's singlehandedly moving the country farther left on average, which leads you to think it's not bad.

Due respect, bullshit

First, the country is moving right

The stupid messages like "some people don't like this word" are laughed at and, when they announce a new campaign- like the new one where they will be adding "helpful information" to posts pertaining to the election- it pisses both sides off

Overall it is so polarized that nothing is going to change anyone's mind. No one ever read a tweet and said "Wow! I am changing my political perspective by 180 degrees!"

Jokes I use to be able to make on social media with no issue will now quickly get you an actual ban, or suspension.

There are levels like "some people don't like this word", which means you'll have to click a warning link to see the tweet, to "delete this tweet before we let you post again" to consecutively longer suspensions to banning

The rules are easy to get around, you do have to be pretty out of line to get to the higher levels and banning is usually for more visible people and/or radicals who ignore warnings

and even bans can be reversed

yes, there should be complete freedom of speech but twitter is a private entity- their ball, their yard, their rules

What this leads to is fewer of these jokes on the platform where people can see them.

Ha! You definitely don't follow me

Then when someone does make one of these jokes, it's off-putting for those listening because it's no longer the norm.

The whole purpose of comedy is to slaughter sacred cows

These platforms and their censorship did that, and these effects extend off their platform.

Twitter reflects society, society does not reflect twitter

Clicking on a tweet or news article is far different from having it on your daily rotation of apps you visit just for the sake of passing time. There is a reason these sites focus so much effort on retention. They want you coming to the site and staying on it.

You don't need it in your daily rotation because the media sticks it in your face

When most people see a tweet in an article, they click it for more info and then they read/respond to the comments- not as good as full time users but it helps keep eyes on the site

If Elon identifies this problem and puts the right people on it, Twitter could do well because of exactly these people. The key is to get the people who click on a tweet from a news article to be enticed by something else on Twitter, so they click that next, then so on. Right now Twitter fails at this.

See Elon has a different approach. He has some ideas for making twitter more profitable but he said himself he does not care about the economics, he has plenty of other income sources. That is why he is taking it private

He is genuinely focused on the advancement of civilization, as is evidenced by his other projects

He realizes the power of twitter to get things out and is focused on freedom of speech above all else

Really? Is that what boycotting is? I don't like Walmart, either, but does that mean I'm a pussy for not shopping there because, instead, I should shop there, but scream aloud all the reasons I don't like it while I'm there?

Okay, come on

Walmart is a retail business. If you don't shop there it is because you making an economic choice.

twitter is all about expressing ideas. when you reject it, you are putting your hands over your ears and yelling "neener neener" because you are afraid to hear opposing ideas and/or to express your own

What you are doing is not shopping at the mall because you don't like one of the stores and other people shop at it

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BringTheCat789 2 points ago +2 / -0

profitability

They are still profitable. They disclose these numbers. You can just look them up. Why are you relying on headlines that talk about things that aren't Facebook's profitability to make inferences about something that you can look up directly?

I was talking about functionality

Nobody is arguing that Twitter is not the same as Facebook. The only discussion to be had is why Twitter cannot be as profitable as Facebook.

When you reply to a tweet, anyone can see this.

Pragmatically, this works darn near the same as comments on Facebook. Twitter has even adjusted how it displays tweets to make tweet replies feel even more like comments on Facebook. To see these replies, you click on the tweet. To see comments on Facebook, you click on the post.

The country is moving right

Haha. Not yet. The pendulum is still swinging left. Hopefully it starts to swing back right soon.

You use to be able to make tranny jokes without anyone even giving it a second thought. You watch movies from just 5 years ago and tranny jokes are common. These are now avoided at all costs in Hollywood, and individuals also avoid them, unless they can first ensure present company isn't "sensitive."

Before that, you could freely make gay jokes.

It use to be a common position that gays cannot be married. Now even the staunchest of conservatives will often concede that it doesn't matter to them, even those who use to fight hard against it.

We are clearly moving left. I don't know how you don't see it. It happens slowly yes, but just think back to how things use to be, and compare them to today. Less than 10 years ago, trannies playing in sports was a joke that could "never" happen. Nowadays it's literally happening and it's an actively debated topic.

No one is ever going to read a tweet and change their perspective 180 degrees.

Of course not. But maybe they'll change their perspective 1 degree. That adds up. And maybe not one tweet. Maybe a mass of tweets will change their perspective 1 degree. It all adds up. It's not black and white. And you're not immune to it either. You are what you read.

The rules are easy to get around.

Yes, they are, but that is more effort than many are willing to spend. And even just by "getting around the rules," you are distorting your message. Language is very important, and the left are doing a good job of controlling it. On YouTube, big content creators avoid even saying the word "gun," for instance, as it risks demonetization. They say all sorts of things to get around it, but when you're constantly exposed to getting around it, the connotation of the word "gun" quickly changes. "Gun" is no longer associated with the family-friendly, fun content. It's only used in serious contexts.

This type of control of language ends up affecting the way people think. Language is very important, I cannot stress that enough.

These types of effects aren't immediate, so they may difficult for you to perceive. But they affect you, too. I encourage you to take a step back and really think about how your perception of certain words have changed over the years.

Twitter reflects society, society does not reflect Twitter.

I wish that were true. And it would be, if Twitter was still a free-speech platform. But with the degree of censorship, and false propping of tweet replies, this just isn't the case anymore.

Nowadays, if a person went to Twitter to understand what society was like, they would assess that society is 75% extreme left, 20% moderate left, and 5% extreme conservative. I will say that this effect seems to have been pulled back a bit. But leading up to and just after the 2020 election and through COVID, it was as if their algorithms were in full force. Back then, if you clicked on any high profile figure's tweets, it would be NOTHING but far left tweets.

Especially with the COVID stuff. Any time any politician would tweet about COVID regulations, nearly all the replies would be that the politician isn't doing enough and should do more. This is clearly not what society actually believed.

And when you control the speech like this, you start to control the narrative in little ways.

He realizes the power of Twitter to get things done

Do you agree with Elon here? Because it sounds like you do based on the way you typed this. But how could Twitter have power to get things done if society does not reflect Twitter in any way? This seems contradictory to everything else you have said.

You are afraid to express your ideas or listen to others if you don't use Twitter.

Twitter is a platform that makes money off of their users (even if they suck at it). If I choose to not use it, it's because I don't want them to earn any more money. It is an economic choice. If Twitter was a non-profit and behaved the same way as they do now, then you'd almost have an argument. At that point, though, those who leave may just want to express their ideas in a less hostile environment, creating their own.

Were those who escaped British rule to America cowards because they should have stayed in Britain and changed it instead of starting anew?

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catvideos3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now do meta!

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sovereign_citizen 16 points ago +16 / -0

Arm the meme cannons!

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RiverFenix 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have a ripe collection spanning early 2016.

I have a Meme War 1 veteran pin on my jacket with pepes face

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Lord_Nekro 4 points ago +4 / -0

Now all you need to is see the Meme Veterans Admin and get Meme Veterans disability. I hear it's up to 3k theoretical dollars a month now /s

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RiverFenix 2 points ago +3 / -1

I've already signed up for the Meme Commissionaires who guard entrance to data warehouses and Tim Hortons parking lots.

I pay my dues at the Meme Legion.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

my computer broke and i had to go to the Meme Veterans Hospital

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WhitePowerRanger 2 points ago +2 / -0

My dad is a Vietmeme vet

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okboomer59 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have that pin, but in my case it’s just stolen valor

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PaigeAshley 14 points ago +14 / -0

The bad guys run every single mainstream media station and social media platform, why are they so worried about ONE company being taken out of their hands?

They can brainwash people with all the other crap companies they own.

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current_horror 15 points ago +16 / -1

It’s called a preference cascade. One small victory threatens to snowball into a total culture shift. That’s why leftists are so hellbent on forcing trannies on everyone and everything. If we successfully push back and defeat them on even one issue, we can capture the momentum and begin taking back real territory.

This is also why the tranny issue is way bigger than people realize. It’s the most eminently winnable front in this culture war because it is so plainly insane and unpopular, and that’s precisely why leftists are so unhinged and aggressive in defending it.

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Skogin 8 points ago +8 / -0

Remove the trannies to unravel the mind control.

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Hangemh1gh 3 points ago +3 / -0

The tranny issue isn't just about gaining ground/momentum in the culture war. That's part of it, but ultimately it's about demoralizing our youth, inverting normal human behaviors and let's not forget about all of the hospitals and pharmaceutical companies are making billions & billions of dollars. The medical industrial complex has merged with the military industrial complex. What a fucking shit show. 🤡🌎

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try4gain 2 points ago +3 / -1

If we successfully push back and defeat them on even one issue, we can capture the momentum and begin taking back real territory.

it's pathetic that "winning the tranny war" has become a yard stick of success, that we maybe HOPE we can do.

I think society is about to flip shit and great reset the fuck out of these leftist.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

the end game of the tranny and whole LGBTQSTFU movement is the destruction of the family, church and moral fabric of this country

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

why are they so worried about ONE company being taken out of their hands?

it allows Bs of people to freely speak without anyone gagging them

also because the media would collapse without twitter and they would lose their brainwashing power

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5wheels 2 points ago +2 / -0

I want at least one HUGE social platform where lefties can safely read our bashing about them without censorship.

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PaigeAshley 3 points ago +3 / -0

MeToo!

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when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +1 / -0

This touches on an argument I've made a lot. Not just lefties but normies like censorship. They don't want to read things that upset them. This is my argument for why heavily censored platforms are always more popular than free speech platforms.

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UndercoverSpez 10 points ago +10 / -0

Doubt Musk will change much, especially before midterms.

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Mitzhatzmakoph 6 points ago +6 / -0

If he doesn't censor before midterms the gov and media will declare it election interference

Projection and then flip

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

troll score zero point zero

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TOPDAWG23 1 point ago +1 / -0

Truth Social also bans people so you're full of s***.

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UndercoverSpez 1 point ago +2 / -1

I've seen, I believe, your other accounts around here before.

I think your correct in your worries about DeSantis and Musk, but the way you go about it doesn't bring you any favors.

Either way, here's hoping we are both wrong on both of them.

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KINGOJ007 8 points ago +8 / -0

Let's not get too excited that the guy who wants to chip our brains might take over twitter.

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rosylake 1 point ago +1 / -0

He also tweeted yesterday about X the everything app which I guess some people think he wants to turn into something like China's WeChat using Twitter. Social credit history and all. He has also said (or tweeted) in the past he would like for everyone to use their real ID on Twitter.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

some people think

you sound like the media

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Dictator_Bob 5 points ago +5 / -0

Suppressing the speech of their opposition is a legitimate method for winning elections? No, in the past - and right now - we call that authoritarian. You can stripe that as fascistic or communistic, in the American system of freedom all of that is garbage to be chucked out. Authoritarianism is not and cannot be welcomed in the United States of America. It doesn't matter where it comes from our how much rhetoric is slapped on top of it. The only good place for any authoritarian is at the end of a rope.

Fuck Twitter and most importantly, fuck their entire dishonest "blue check" system. The entire platform and it's work is a fraud if not outright treason.

Is Elon really going to change this?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Elon said he was going to get rid of the blue check system

People who pay $3 for twitter blue will get the blue check

People who go through the verification process will have a different mark

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MagaNV 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think this is huge actually. If Musk reveals the bot count, the algorithm favoritism, and lifts all the crazy unjust bans then the general public starts to see behind the veil a bit more. Most of the liberal trolls online are bots. I don't care what anyone says these ludicrous liberals are not the majority by a long shot. If he can do this before midterms then the house of card falls.

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Keep_on_winning_kag 4 points ago +5 / -1

We need to start saying that things are a threat to our democracy if we use the same words as them it'll make their words completely useless and irrelevant.

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okboomer59 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are an existential threat to the Republic

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Cuetardian 4 points ago +4 / -0

Leftists will just make their own version. It will certainly be called MySafeSpace.

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NoComment 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is an assault on liberalism, er, Democracy!

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

If Musk is really taking this site private, there are no real guardrails anymore. Rulemaking can be capricious.

you mean, he can just make up the rules as he goes along?

say it ain't so!

My prediction: a dem push to revoke Section 230

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Trumpwon556 -3 points ago +3 / -6

Cutting their nose off to spite their face

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try4gain 3 points ago +4 / -1

If twitter goes "free speech".

Holy shit, hold on boys. It will be 100x worse than liberals think. And 10x worse than PDW thinks.

4chan has an entire folder of jpg, gifs and videos that will literally change your life.

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fskfsk 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, there is no immediate replacement.

Why doesn't the left make "woke social", just like the right was forced to do when they were deplatformed? That's because the value of Twitter is that the normies are on Twitter and probably aren't going to move unless it's easy. Losing control of Twitter means losing their ability to control what people think.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

will be flooded with every vulgar, detestable, racist, terroristic comment, word, phrase, idea possible if they can manage it.

oh look, freedom of speech

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frogface 2 points ago +2 / -0

Free speech or civil war.

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Trumpwon556 -3 points ago +3 / -6

Both?

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 1 point ago +2 / -1

Oh it's gon be both

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oneunderscore__ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nothing is going to happen. Elon is not on our side. One of his long time associates is a hardcore Trump hater. Birds of a feather flock together... He's not going to do anything to improve free speech

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Trumpwon556 -3 points ago +3 / -6

We don't need him on our side. We just need him to remove the leftist bias from Twitter and they will lose control quickly.

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Snooptwo 2 points ago +2 / -0

KILL THE CENSORS

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trannyqueef 2 points ago +2 / -0

Twitter has been instrumental in more uprisings, coups and revolutions than any media tool in modern history. Every Dem/CIA plot in the last 10 years has been coordinated and carried out through twitter.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

carried out through twitter.

how do they shoot people from twitter?

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trannyqueef 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pretty simple. They organize massive riots and lawlessness where they know people will bring guns and commit murder. Have you not been following any news in the last 3 years? BLM riots?

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

whoosh

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OnlyTrump20 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dems keep talking about attacks on democracy, yet democracy cannot exist unless all sides get the same chance to speak freely.

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FreedomFromGovt 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, they keep talking about attacks on their democracy, in which the hivemind has already been homogenized to maintain identical notions—right down to the same jargon. Zen-like serenity prevails in such an environment. Is it any wonder they consider it an attack if one of us disrupts their collective uniformity?

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toysjoe 2 points ago +2 / -0

What’s the big deal? Just go make your own Twitter.

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Trumpwon556 -2 points ago +3 / -5

😆

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Dantalian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doesn't really matter if they can't censor us on Twitter - the Dems have their millions of fake ballots ready to distribute as soon as the Republican jurisdictions report how many ballots are needed.

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454evr 2 points ago +2 / -0

Journalists are always so fragile.

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brassmule 2 points ago +2 / -0

That link is... wow.

https://pics.me.me/made-this-you-made-this-meme-i-made-this-32675872.png - this is the link you wanted.

 

When you search for images, once you find the one you want, be sure to right click on the image and select "copy image address." On mobile sometimes that link is a long press and "Open File" or similar. Then copy that link. We don't need a long ass link with possible tracking links that displays the search function you used and its results.

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BeardedNinjaPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

It gave me AIDS. Watch out pedes!

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RiverFenix 1 point ago +2 / -1

face palm

goes to time out

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brassmule 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's cool. TMYK and thanks for fixing your link.

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sgt_richard 2 points ago +2 / -0

Be afraid of what? That you'll be called out on your bullshit! That we won't have to tolerate your smug cunty attitude because you know the second we present facts we'll get banned.

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Space_Force 2 points ago +2 / -0

NOOO! Free speech is literally fascism!

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A_Colostomy_Bag 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're propagandists not reporters.

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Imransgarage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is this the same Ben Collins out of Atlanta that did some early pizza gate reporting?

Nice to know that was total controlled op on his part.

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FitOfficial 2 points ago +4 / -2

You mean we won't have complete totalitarian control over the censorship of our opponents? HOW WILL OUR IDEAS SURVIVE?!?!?!

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pburgpait 1 point ago +1 / -0

Be afraid your narrative control regime is coming to an end

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Trythisagain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Scared to hear or speak the truth, to hell with them!

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OneBigMaga 1 point ago +2 / -1

This won't go through before midterms.

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GlizzyGobbler 1 point ago +1 / -0

The need to purge all the bot accounts from these social media sites and unban all the real human accounts, until that happens they are all just fake news

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +1 / -0

He's pushing it through to avoid being deposed

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aboardthegravyboat 1 point ago +1 / -0

"if people can freely exchange ideas, they'll never vote for us again!" Is a curious admission

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Necrovoter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whether Trump posts directly, or Don Jr updates tweets for him , the Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee heard round the world is about to begin.

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assblast 1 point ago +1 / -0

the fact it alludes to this deal not only going through prior to the midterms, but suggesting the floodgates of free speech will be opened beyond just a crack AND also on day 1 of acquisition...okay sure

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Siteless_Vagrant 1 point ago +1 / -0

Twitter didn't count the votes... Twitter didn't even SWAY enough votes... iirc, Twitter didn't work SO HARD, they had to stop the count and wait for more fake ballots to be delivered in order to defeat Trump. Same goes for the rest of social media.

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MagaNV 1 point ago +1 / -0

If twitter matters not they wouldn't be concerned about it. They wouldn't have banned people.

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madeaprofilejustforu 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes.

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ParticleCannon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imagine if we actually had net neutrality instead of the previously offered Net Neutrality™

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Slugbert 1 point ago +1 / -0

5d chess on Elon’s part. He knows the dems are going to run the economy into the ground and make the USD worthless. He can’t allow his fortune to be messed with, so he buys Twitter in a surprising move in an effort to even the odds, so to speak, against the election interference of Big Tech.

My thoughts, anyway.

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easedel 1 point ago +1 / -0

It would prolly follow along the same rules that GAB runs their free speech policies

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Trumpwon556 -4 points ago +2 / -6

Nah. He doesn't want the fringe left or right on twitter. He's already said they would both be unhappy.

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Coloradowolverine 1 point ago +1 / -0

But hep will they fortify the election if they don't get to control levery thought, text, and political opinion their shee... I mean readers see?