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MAGAguitar 206 points ago +207 / -1

And with a kill switch! Perhaps based on one's social justice score.

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MacManus 95 points ago +95 / -0

This is the part that’s more worrying

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henri_derelicte 61 points ago +61 / -0

They will use the kill switches to enforce a climate lockdown

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turdinthepunch 49 points ago +49 / -0

They'll be locking down all the newest most fuel efficient cars while I drive around in my 01 taco.

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CrustySockpuppet 20 points ago +21 / -1

Taco for the win!

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covfefe-time 17 points ago +17 / -0

Motor rebuilding intensifies.

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MawaDeBlanco1 11 points ago +11 / -0

get your torque wrench, ridge reamer, ring expander, and plasti-guage while you can.

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covfefe-time 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll be adding to my inventory, no doubt.

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MawaDeBlanco1 2 points ago +2 / -0

if you find a nice Black & Decker valve grinding machine at an auction for cheap, pick one up. I did. I spent $40 for one and when you can't get replacement valves, you will be king. if not, it's good for that in scrap...either way, i've resurfaced more valves and done more cylinder head jobs on weekends after work than I can count. I literally put myself through grad school fixing engines and cars for cash on the side. I'm looking for a brake lathe currently, because you know replacement rotors and drums are going to be hard to find at some point.

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OrangeCatBad 6 points ago +6 / -0

If you haven't notice a sudden fluid and parts shortage is already occuring

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covfefe-time 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not to that end, but something I'll be investigating. Have some spare, but not enough the way things seem to be going.

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FuckTyranny 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gen 1 Taco bro! Mine has 170k, leaks oil, and barely gets 15mpg. You'll pry that truck and my WRX out of my cold, dead hands.

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Friar_Pede 4 points ago +5 / -1

Rumble: 'how to disable kill switch'

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TheDigger3 7 points ago +7 / -0

Ehh to be honest, the 49 mpg is more worrying to me. Car manufacturers plan long term, there's massive amounts of engineering to be done and tooling to be made. In the midst of a car shortage, they're going to have to take some models out of production to switch over tooling for new cars that meet this higher standard. Plus it wouldn't make sense to keep making cars that wouldn't meet the new standard. Even if we recover from the current shortage, this sets us up for a new shortage in 2-3 years. Keeping prices high to crush the middle class for the NWO.

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Cesare_Borgia 6 points ago +6 / -0

The push for mpg is making cars less reliable. Small engines crammed full of turbochargers, gasoline direct injection, all that start stop nonsense, and horrible CVT transmissions.

No way will you see modern cars still driving around in 20 years like how you often see 20 years old civics and corollas still driving around.

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TrumpVoter1 3 points ago +3 / -0

The new Corolla hybrid is 52mpg now. We aren't getting there with gasoline alone and the admin knows this.

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peltast 17 points ago +17 / -0

With 10% for the Big Guy.

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PoliticallyIncorrect 16 points ago +16 / -0

the kill switch would be for those that are mega-social justice warriors, right? After all, the more justicie someone is, the more they care about “climate change” & would surely know that ANY mpg is evil unless it’s ridden on a bicycle with with the seat removed while updating one’s profile to “standing with ukraine”…

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 -8 points ago +17 / -25

Bicycles are still awesome for commutes less than 2 miles, and a look at the average American will show you that we need the exercise.

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King5150 41 points ago +42 / -1

Most Americans don't work anywhere near where they live. Kinda really hard to do a weekly shop for the family on a bike or eScooter. This idea that bicycles will solve transportation issues is a utopian fallacy. Those who live inside major cities already eBike/eScooter but asking them do this through the heart of freezing winters is just idiotic especially when the retards who issues such dreams get driven around in taxpayer funded SUV's. Hypocrisy has no bounds for these idealistic morons.

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tyrantsgetthescope 29 points ago +29 / -0

You’ll eat the bike and you’ll like it

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ThisIsHowItStarts 12 points ago +12 / -0

Top KEK

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Perhelion 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lmao

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goat_nebula 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yea, good luck taking your family anywhere on your bicycle. Spoken like a young single hipster that guy.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am really damn old and I like taking my grandkids on a bike ride through a trail

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 -1 points ago +7 / -8

Eh, I live in the state with the shortest average commute (Wyoming) so I am saying this based on that.

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BillGateCanSuckIt 11 points ago +12 / -1

Good luck Biking in the snow

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +5 / -3

I did exactly that for years during calving season

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Xilient 0 points ago +1 / -1

Prior to working from home I biked year round to my office building here in Michigan. Winter included. That was 4 miles each way. Saved a ton of money on gas and keeps car milage lower. The real problem is people putting up with long commutes - it's completely retarded.

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FuckTyranny 5 points ago +5 / -0

You live in a state with 2 escalators in its entirety, our experiences are very different (I say this as someone who LOVES the state of Wyoming! Spent a lot of time there when I was at CSU)

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Bahariye -2 points ago +2 / -4

I think its more like bike when/if you can instead of driving 2 blocks.

But somehow if you mention riding a bike people get so upset like you pissed on their shoe. It's a fucking bicycle.

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TiddyPussy 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly keep it off the fucking street.

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goat_nebula 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yea, is this dude European or something?

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TiddyPussy 1 point ago +1 / -0

No probably just a regular faggot

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Bahariye 1 point ago +2 / -1

Nah

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Ilanna 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because it seems to be said with the assumption that everyone lives 3 blocks from work and grocery stores, at the least. Cities have paid out how many $$ putting bike lanes EVERYWHERE and they never get used. Never.

The only people I have ever see riding their bikes are the teenagers, an occasional guy in downtown, or the truly excited more than amateur riders with the complete gear sets out where I live in the middle of nowhere. These people either don't use the bike lanes or ride where there are two car lanes if you're lucky.

So, ride your bike. That's great, that's awesome. However, understand that saying "Oh, just ride your bike more often" makes you sound like an idiot to those of us that exist outside the hellhole of the city.

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Bahariye 2 points ago +4 / -2

Why are you so angry about riding bikes? Nobody here is saying replace your car. You bitch about bike lanes being built and bitch about people that ride on them too. Do you want them used or not?

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Ilanna 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not angry about riding bikes. Riding bikes is good exercise. It can be a good social experience, or great family time. Riding bikes isnt the issue.

I'm angry about the assumption of everyone who says "Oh, just ride your bike" without realizing not everyone lives in an apartment 5 minutes away from work and food. I'm angry about the money spent on those bike lanes that NEVER GET USED, when that money could have been spent so much more wisely. (If you'd actually read what I wrote, you'd have seen I said the so special bike lanes never get used).

I'm angry at the government trying to force people into electric vehicle technology that, while improving, isn't fully ready. I'm angry at the government for trying to get rid of fossil fuels in general without a real replacement such as nuclear (see, a wise use for that money).

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boataholic 2 points ago +2 / -0

You'll be sweaty and stinky and you will like it.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +2 / -0

You will drop dead of a heart attack before you turn 60 if you hate exercise

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Just_An_Idahoan -1 points ago +1 / -2

Bikes are for kids and FAGS!

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 1 point ago +2 / -1

You will drop dead of a heart attack before you turn 60 if you think exercise is for fags.

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MawaDeBlanco1 15 points ago +15 / -0

we who can afford to, live as far away from work and cities as possible. I don't want to run into coworkers when I shop, I don't want to live in a crime ridden city in some shitty condo with no parking and panhandlers everywhere.

I have acreage, an out of site estate, room to shoot, and 35 miles outside of the city. fuck bicycles. motorcycles are faster and get even better mileage.

THIS is the American dream.

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I_Used_to_be_me 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yup, same. We’re closing now on our new home. We’ve moved… gee idk like 7 times in the past 6 years or so, but each move has been further away from the city and further into the mountains/middle of nowhere. I need diesels, 4x4s and AWD, not EVs. I’m gonna be burning wood to heat my home, and I’m gonna be burning something one way or another to get around every day.

Before we know it they’re gonna say my home is non compliant and let us freeze to death. I can’t stand these fucksticks that live like roaches on top of eachother and think everyone else lives the same

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dukeofdoorcounty 4 points ago +5 / -1

My country home has propane and resistance heat. Replaced them with mini split heat pumps. They are insanely efficient

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I_Used_to_be_me 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nice, I’ll have to look into it. This is our first time being home owners so it’s honestly all new to me and I’m learning as we go, but it’s nice at least having the pellet stove right now along with the forced hot air. Heard the dual heat+AC units are really good nowadays too so I might look into doing that since the house isn’t huge. We still get enough hot summer months where we need AC and I’d prefer that over a window unit (no central air, not really a thing in these parts).

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logicallyevil 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yeah that 3mi commute on a bike in -20 wind-chill while transporting 2b kids to school is awesome.

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goat_nebula 5 points ago +5 / -0

My office is 55 miles from my home. When I’m not there I’m driving laps around Houston to see customers. No thanks.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok... read what I fucking wrote.

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FloridaGirl 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not the point.

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NooneFor2024II 8 points ago +8 / -0

And the new mileage tax fee that will come up after the study that began with 90 days of the stupid bill being signed

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ChelseaHubbell 4 points ago +4 / -0

Michael Hastings.

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WhitePowerRanger 82 points ago +82 / -0

Priuses don’t even average 49 mpg. Fuck neither of my motorcycles even averages 50 mpg

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User_X 99 points ago +100 / -1

It's not about efficiency... It's about killing off the Gas and Diesel vehicle. This is the green new deal, it didn't go away.

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BigIronBigIron 18 points ago +18 / -0

Just live in our walkable city, g-y

Just pay us 4 grand a month to live in a capsule, g-y

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Kavika 8 points ago +9 / -1

u can say gay here.

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user365927285937 5 points ago +5 / -0

g_yim

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goat_nebula 2 points ago +3 / -1

Hell you can say faggot too when the situation calls for it. Even retard.

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Voltage 8 points ago +8 / -0

You will get your energy needs from as far away from the producer and pay a royalty every step on the way.

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taxationistheftt 5 points ago +6 / -1

yup theyre coming for your guns but also cars, house, everything. and i dont think anyone doubts it at this point.

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King5150 30 points ago +30 / -0

there isn't a commercially viable gas powered family car which would average anywhere near that sort of mileage in the world.

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Orly 23 points ago +23 / -0

If there were, many people would buy it like mad. Problem solved.

Personally, I like a gas 4x4 V8 when it’s 20 below and the roads are snow covered. Come get me in your Prius, mileage police!

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Nomoralcompass89 9 points ago +9 / -0

Ive got similar beliefs, but I would be be willing to trade the v8 for a v6 if its something i can easily procure lockers for.

I live in northern Ohio, and i will happily suffer through 14 mpg if when it snows 12 inches i can still travel anywhere my heart desires.

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Eatinglue 12 points ago +12 / -0

And vehicles will become that much less safer trying to do so. People will die because of this climate bullshit.

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TrueFlagPatriot420 -16 points ago +5 / -21

How do you figure? Teslas are considered one of the safest cars out there

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Viewer01 18 points ago +18 / -0

Conservation of energy. ICE engines are about as good as they'll get. Which means you'll have to start using lighter components and other means of dropping weight.

Just watch the 2025-2026 models all turn into coupes and other things like aluminum frames.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 9 points ago +10 / -1

I don't think that's considered commercially viable as a family car. Too expensive.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 -10 points ago +3 / -13

So were cars in general at first. Technology needs a few years to develop properly.

Good chance EV battery prices damn near halve by 2026, and with factories being higher output the rest of the car is less expensive too.

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OldSchool2 9 points ago +9 / -0

Not with the shortages of key materials like nickel it wont. Recycling of used cells is no where near where it needs to be at this point either. Talk about an impact to the environment, people need to look at the environmental costs of EV batteries along with the cost to charge them. Then we have the 800lb gorilla in the room. There is zero chance they can support our population with our current electrical infrastructure, period.

Dont mind EV cars and glad they're working to refine them and bring down the costs along with increased safety. We'll need the cost differential to also get lower to save us on the replacement costs. Current replacement for a Telsa battery is in excess of 24K.

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boataholic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, the miraculous drop in costs that didn't happen in the last 4 years is definitely going to happen in the next 4.

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Just_An_Idahoan 1 point ago +1 / -0

User name didn't check out 😏

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TrueFlagPatriot420 0 points ago +1 / -1

I’m not sure why people are downvoting me lol it’s a fact

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FireannDireach 7 points ago +8 / -1

The Hundyai Sonata Hybrid and Toyota Camry hybrid claim to hit 45-50, just looked it up. You can reach these numbers in hybrids, but in straight gas cars, no way.

But shit's getting real. My 2013 4 banger shitbox economy ford is selling for 1k less than what I paid for it new, in 2013, 4 cylinder shitboxes are gold right now. Gas is $6 where I live. I get it. NOT SELLING. I regret not getting rid of it like I was planning right before covid, for a real car, but right now, hanging onto it. It's got low miles and got gold stars across the board when I got it smogged in January.

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10gauge 8 points ago +8 / -0

52 mpg, Volkswagen diesel, 1970s. Witnessed it myself. Hyper-miled over 60.

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I_Used_to_be_me 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yup my ‘14 tdi averaged over 50, and if all highway driving it was about 60, crazy. Loved that thing. And then the whole vw recall shit happened and I was forced to either castrate it or sell it back (I sold it back because I got more than I bought it for. Basically was paid $4,000 to drive it for for years, and then swapped it for… I don’t even know, whatever they replaced the 2.sl0w with (little 1.2 liter turbo or something. “Wolfsburg” to attempt and make it sound cool I guess lol. Damn I miss that diesel)

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OldSchool2 2 points ago +3 / -1

Same for 2000s VW Diesels when hyper miled. You can easily get low 40's high thirties.

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lonestarnuts 4 points ago +4 / -0

My 2001 diesel beetle gets me 45 consistently. It’s great. It’s a little shot to the pride to hit the feed store in but everything comes with a price

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OldSchool2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice.. they run forever from what I hear...

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dukeofdoorcounty 3 points ago +3 / -0

My Kia Niro in hybrid mode does 65 mpg in town if you don't drive like an asshole.

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Kricket 4 points ago +4 / -0

I never thought I’d say this, but I’ve been really impressed with Kia recently. Ended up buying my wife a 2022 telluride last year right after the model year changeover and I love that car. It’s a great vehicle.

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dukeofdoorcounty 3 points ago +3 / -0

Our jetta diesel sportwagon came close.

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King5150 2 points ago +2 / -0

not city commuting it didn't, perhaps cross country highway driving at 60mph which is a sweet spot for diesel and 45mpg is very good ....those NOx emissions though is the reason VW took a 20 billion dollar bath.

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Test_user21 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Gasoline--powered combustion engines are right around 5% efficient- should GMC desire they could make force man'f a 52 volt battery and it's solenoids that powers a car with hundreds of miles per gallon, but crude oil/shale is the world's second most abundant resource (or third if you count methane hydrate), so why bother?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +5 / -3

No, they are in the realm of 35% efficient

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FireannDireach 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think the only cars that can reach that level are the newer hybrids.

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RizzlieDoodad 2 points ago +2 / -0

My street bike gets like 45-50 depending on how much throttle I'm giving it

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TrueFlagPatriot420 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Priuses actually average around 50mpg, around 100 when using electric. Too expensive for me though

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +6 / -2

That 100 calculation is bullshit, it is really 60 with electric

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TrueFlagPatriot420 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Where do you come up with that?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 5 points ago +7 / -2

The EPA's method of calculating electric car efficiency takes into consideration the energy loss from a internal combustion engine, transmission, differentials, tires, etc, but does not take into account energy loss from an electric motor or those aspects of an electric car. Plus questionable methodology for transmission losses.

Those losses total about 40% collectively

That isnt to say that electric cars are bad - 60mpg is still awesome for you if that is something you can use. The EPA is fucking lying though

I have a reputation for being very pro electric vehicle, and I am saying this

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HeavyVetting 6 points ago +6 / -0

Of course the EPA would calculate electric car efficiency based on combustion engine efficiency but not electric motor efficiency 🤡

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 7 points ago +9 / -2

The government is retarded - long time government employee.

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dukeofdoorcounty 3 points ago +3 / -0

It based on the assumption that all 37 kWh of thermal energy in a gallon of gas can be turned into mechanical energy.

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TrueFlagPatriot420 -1 points ago +2 / -3

I’m just going off what people who own them and calculate it say not the epa

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LordCommanderTrump 30 points ago +30 / -0

Oh 100% the beast and all those SUVs are definitely above 50 mpg right. So is DiCaprio's yachts and Arnold's hummers

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Wankerton 7 points ago +7 / -0

Well since he is using super lightweight armor that stop 50 cals.......yes.....according to the election integrity officials.

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utfanx2 2 points ago +2 / -0

The beast? closer to 4.9 mpg.

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TheSage 84 points ago +84 / -0

Come and take it!

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LetsG0Brandon 31 points ago +31 / -0

Stay strapped!

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B1ueCo11ar 3 points ago +4 / -1

Get clapped

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CommunismIsForLosers 3 points ago +3 / -0

"OR get clapped". Important difference maybe...

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B1ueCo11ar 0 points ago +1 / -1

I would assume anyone here would know the reference.

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SHALL_NOT 15 points ago +15 / -0

Well let’s see…an average, regular commuter car gets around 30mpg. At $3/gallon thats 10c per mile. Gas at $5/gallon in a car that’s 50mpg… still 10c per mile. If gas gets to $10, that 50mpg car will cost more per mile than a pickup truck did last year.

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OldSchool2 7 points ago +7 / -0

You're neglecting diesel cars. Shitload of horsepower and torque along with great MPG. Bonus that these shitheads do not like them.

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I_Used_to_be_me 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yup, came here to mention my tdi (that the govt forced me to sell back) that averaged over 50mpg and was a quick fucking thing, so much torque

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OldSchool2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Agree- the spread between Petrol and Diesel here in the states is now averaging over $0.75 a gallon, with interstate petrol stations jacking you for a $1.00 a gallon. The do tax the hell out of it.

The older ones (TDI) you can brew your own but it is hell on the engine and injectors.

Still like the MPG and reliability of the older TDI's - newer ones you need to tune and pull all of the emissions for better performance and MPG (Off Road of Course)

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TrueFlagPatriot420 -6 points ago +2 / -8

Take what? Your truck? Lol

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MySidesGoUp 17 points ago +17 / -0

Haha. They don’t need to take it. They can fail to renew your registration and ticket, impound possibly in some states?

I would think they have a thoughtful rollout plan as such, tho..

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mastayoda420 11 points ago +12 / -1

That's how civil wars are started.

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Saltkang 14 points ago +14 / -0

IDK about civil wars, but it certainly leads to dead cops who try to enforce it. At least the first two or three, the rest might get the hint afterwards that it is a bridge best left uncrossed.

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PromiseImNotASpook 2 points ago +5 / -3

They stole an election and a war didn't start. It's all bluster, no one will do anything but complain on here.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 4 points ago +4 / -0

...Enforcing that would require taking it though. That's the definition of an impound.

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MySidesGoUp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure thing. This is just passively. They’re gonna need some batteries around dmv when those days come..

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PatriotMan1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

In 2 years my car won't need to be inspected 😈

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Voltage 2 points ago +2 / -0

And parts will skyrocket. You know, it's a collector thing.

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FightingTeuton 63 points ago +63 / -0

How can he rule by fiat? He is not our king

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deplorablebot 44 points ago +44 / -0

A conservative congress needs to simply say no and take back their legislative authority from the bureaucratic state.

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VarusSPQR 23 points ago +24 / -1

There are no conservatives in congress

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deplorablebot 3 points ago +3 / -0

There may not be many but there are some.

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I_Used_to_be_me 10 points ago +10 / -0

We the People need to say “no” and stop waiting for someone to solve this shit for us. We did not vote for these clowns, and they do not represent us. They’ve undermined our representative republic and it has henceforth become our duty to take it back

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bubadmt 14 points ago +14 / -0

More like ruling by Yugo.

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's the same thing

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DonuteaterReturns 3 points ago +5 / -2

Fiat is Italian.

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trump4life2024 0 points ago +3 / -3

FIATs aren't too bad. Plus they own Ferrari.

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FightingTeuton 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or Lada Zhiguli

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henri_derelicte 13 points ago +13 / -0

If Biden wants to believe he is king of America, then I believe we should treat him like one. Bring out the guillotine!

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FightingTeuton 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, we should all become Robespierre against the Biden/Obama/Clinton/Neocon/RINO establishment swamp creatures

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I_Used_to_be_me 2 points ago +2 / -0

Throw the old hag in the harbor, no way he can manage a swim back to shore anyway

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 12 points ago +15 / -3

Congress passed a law dictating that the EPA has this power, the EPA being an executive agency and Biden being head of the executive branch...

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Saltkang 11 points ago +11 / -0

Congress had no authority to give it. I fail to see a section of the US Constitution that states the right to determine anything along these lines regarding freedom of travel, ownership of private property, or the generation and use of power; and there is certainly nothing that allows Congress to abdicate any powers actually granted to it by the people to an unrepresentative and non-elected body to rule over the country by fiat.

In the end, it is due to fraud, and because of fraud, is therefore null and void. Same with the AFT, DEA, IRS, etc. I can't sell you a house I don't own, if I did, the contract would be void due to fraud and I would be held accountable for my fraud. The same needs to be done with DC.

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Pravda 5 points ago +5 / -0

We all agree. These are ideals from a time long ago, that are well fleshed out. The founding fathers considered the first principals very well. Also, they are the entire authority of our government, borne on blood. Their amendments may require the same sacrifice. 👍🏻

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KILLARY4PRISON -1 points ago +1 / -2

This theory was tested in SCOTUS. It died.

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Saltkang 1 point ago +1 / -0

So too must all traitors.

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DontArkancideMeBro 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why not mandate 300 mpgs? Or 3000 for that matter!

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lonestarnuts 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why am I not 3000 mpgs ahead you might ask?

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FightingTeuton 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too much power. Way too much power.

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knuckles_ghost 2 points ago +2 / -0

he can't we are letting them.. Specifically our state representatives..

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kratomlol 57 points ago +57 / -0

I'm not getting rid of my 14mpg beater truck fuck you

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fjzappa 25 points ago +25 / -0

Yeah - we're going to have trouble getting parts for our old trucks at some point. They'll probably outlaw old parts for old politically incorrect beaters.

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MLGS 32 points ago +32 / -0

This was the whole point of Cash for Clunkers under Obama, they wanted to destroy as many working old cars as possible.

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NotAHandshake 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah that shit pretty much ruined the used car market, even to this day.

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fazaman 3 points ago +3 / -0

And I bet that once this EPA madness becomes a reality they'll bring it back to "help people get fuel efficient cars!" And totally not to destroy as many old cars as possible.

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kratomlol 10 points ago +10 / -0

The trick is finding your local tweakers, they got all the parts.

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LetsG0Brandon 5 points ago +5 / -0

That was "cash for clunkers"...

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BigIronBigIron 5 points ago +6 / -1

And then people 3D print their own ghost ignition switches

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I_Used_to_be_me 4 points ago +4 / -0

At least for the time being, a 90s Chevy Silverado can be leaking from just about every possible spot and there’s almost always a way to patch shit up and keep it running if you’ve got enough jb weld and duct tape. I couldn’t believe some of the GM trucks and work vans that’d get brought into the garage like this, over 500k miles, sludge clogging up every leak, but they were always still kicking

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fjzappa 2 points ago +2 / -0

I had a 2006 GMC Diesel, the last year before the crazy new restrictions on diesel emissions. i planned to keep that truck as close to forever as possible. But. Someone had her turn signal on, indicating a turn. I pulled out, she didn't turn, or even slow down much. Insurance totalled the truck. Now I have a 2019 with all of the ridiculous emissions stuff. Maybe I need to find an old 7.3 Ford or something.

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deplorablebot 3 points ago +4 / -1

Right, but good luck ever being able to buy anything even close to it again.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where is the NHRA? Helllo, anyone home over there?

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SmokeyAF 36 points ago +36 / -0

Can't wait to see that shit-standard shitcanned in 24.

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CH3NO2 40 points ago +40 / -0

The first thing Trump should do is eliminate the EPA.

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4DHopscotch 25 points ago +26 / -1

I member all agencies we wanted Trump to eliminate the first time, yet here we are.

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TrannyClausSliceDice 11 points ago +11 / -0

I think it may be to the point where outside of something MAJOR from citizens..One person just simply isn’t able to drain the swamp as needed.

The only way I think it could maybe start looking better is if. MAGA becomes contagious of sorts. Say trump wins (and beats the fraud) in 2024. Say he is President till 2028 and decided to retire but the country is going great and people have hopped on the Maga train. DeSantis gets in. He stays for 8 years. So during those 12 years maybe more and more maga people can slowly but surely gain power?

Otherwise- we just have to take what we can get. Now it’s trump. I do not agree with everything he does. I’ve gene dissatisfied at times too (rhino picks) but one thing I do know is he loves America and he genuinely- as a billionaire even- is trying to help the normal/ regular American common folk. Somehow he is more relatable than every single politician ever.

And he calls out the fake news and the radical left like NO other Republican had before. A few others do now (Gaetz, MGT etc) but before trump all of them were pussies.

Now we got DeSantis who is pretty bad ass but i don’t think there’d be a DeSantis without a trump first.

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user365927285937 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you honestly think a true MAGA candidate wouldn’t be assassinated the moment he steps into power?

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TrannyClausSliceDice 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m not sure.

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CH3NO2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think people expected more decency out of the Dems. Now that we know we can expect 0 decency, go scorched earth.

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usdodsgssog 14 points ago +14 / -0

The first thing Trump should do is eliminate the government. Fire everyone.

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Junionthepipeline 8 points ago +8 / -0

Should have done.

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SmokeyAF 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll drink to that.

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Billybobcuccio 31 points ago +31 / -0

We will be like the Soviet Union and only the elites will drive or be driven around .

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knuckles_ghost 7 points ago +7 / -0

:) for a bit

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B4D_ID3AS 27 points ago +27 / -0

But what if they cost more than people can afford?

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WhitePowerRanger 19 points ago +19 / -0

Did I mention inflation?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 14 points ago +16 / -2

Or not fucking possible. I have needed to tow 10 tons of concrete half way across Wyoming, I cant fucking do that with a truck that gets 20 mpg. I get 5 when I try that

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BigIronBigIron 5 points ago +5 / -0

Stop living in Wyoming, g-y

Move to San Francisco, g-y

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +4 / -2

Wyoming - the coal capital of the US.

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BigIronBigIron 11 points ago +11 / -0

Just live in a vibrant diverse coastal city run by champagne socialists who hate you

Just rent a luxury shoebox from those same people for thousands of shekels a month

Just fight with illegal immigrants for wagie work like a pigeon fighting for a breadcrumb

Live in the capsule, wave the rainbow flag, kneel to BLM

Eat the bugs

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Ep1ctetus 4 points ago +4 / -0

*and be happy

I think you forgot to add that one, probably because it seems so obvious. Who wouldn’t be happy with those living conditions.

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Nikola_S1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who doesn't take soma.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Meanwhile the exact same coastal ultra wealthy infest Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and are starting to infest Johnson/Sheridan county, where I now live...

Luckily it has made my ranch go from 1.5 million to north of 20 million over the course of 25 years, and will likely go to 50-100 million

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BigIronBigIron 3 points ago +4 / -1

You know they're going to steal it out from under you right

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 -2 points ago +1 / -3

No they arent.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

You a mixer driver too?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 10 points ago +12 / -2

I owned a concrete polishing/cutting/coring company 20 years ago, gave the equipment to one of my sons and still haul shit from time to time. I was not driving concrete to pour, I was driving a dump trailer full of shit we removed to dispose of it.

Way too fucking old to do that work myself (80th birthday is in December), but I can still haul shit.

And before anyone calls me ancient, I am still younger than Joe Biden.

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Softserved 4 points ago +6 / -2

80 year old pede shitposting, welcome fren.

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I_Love_45-70_Gov 3 points ago +5 / -2

Approaching 80, yet fan of my man Geralt.

Awesome....👍

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +5 / -2

Videogames are far superior to mindless television

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Nomoralcompass89 2 points ago +3 / -1

You just made me think of a quote from We Were Soldiers:

"If any of you mother fuckers call me grandpa, I'll kill you"

Thanks for the laugh fren.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +4 / -2

Happy late Birthday Fren! I’m really happy you’re here with us!

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Retardloserimsogay 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nice! Our salesman over books constantly but can’t drive. Lol

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah, tilt ups I’d imagine, after the slab it’s not so bad doing the walls. I hate getting up at 2AM to go do 500-1000 yard slab work. 🤦

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hoarsecaulk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Omg me too. So much.

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meme_kat 4 points ago +5 / -1

you will own nothing and you will be happy.

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FireannDireach 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's for new vehicles sold after 2026. Old cars will still be around, it's not a mandatory cash for clunkers program. If this even lasts past 2024.

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HeavyVetting 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's going to be 2025 at the earliest before anything really would change, by that time they will probably be committed to meeting the new standards.

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CommunismIsForFags 21 points ago +21 / -0

What fucking line of the Constitution gives these assholes this power?

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TrannyClausSliceDice 11 points ago +11 / -0

Lol. Unfortunately the constitution hasn’t mattered in many many years. ESPECIALLY the last 2-3 years.

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HeavyVetting 4 points ago +4 / -0

Something something interstate commerce

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KILLARY4PRISON 2 points ago +4 / -2

It's so funny how they justify everything on that otherwise benign section.

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Pepe_longcockings 14 points ago +14 / -0

“We live in a free country, as long as we pay 1,000 different taxes and obey arbitrary regulations”

Maybe instead of investing in crypto, property, or metals, we should be stocking up on gas vehicles

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BillionsAndBillions 6 points ago +6 / -0

Replacement parts for popular models might be a decent investment, if they outlaw importation or something. F150 and Tacoma parts might be a good bet (popular and last a long time).

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Retardloserimsogay 14 points ago +14 / -0

Jay Inslee banned the sale and registration of any gas powered car built 2030 or later in the state of Washington. Yeah, this is the aids I get to deal with.

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Pickinpox 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah his lispy ass can lick my oil filter

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Ep1ctetus 5 points ago +5 / -0

WA state legislature and governor of are among the scummiest in the nation. They rule by dictate since the King County faggots will just do whatever the TV tells them to do, but otherwise they pay no attention to politics until it’s time to join a virtue signal “cause” for a week.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sums it up pretty well with what we’re dealing with on the coast. I’m watching in real time the gaslight of defund the police turn into gaslight “why are police dying on duty” the news will look at you with a straight face and destroy you. King county is the ultimate virtue death cult.

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deletedandreacted 12 points ago +12 / -0

Good luck with that.

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RicFlir 11 points ago +11 / -0

Hell, why not 200 mpg? 1,000 mpg, I say!

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Ep1ctetus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes! Why limit themselves? Do they love big oil or something? Do they hate the planet? 1000 mpg minimum.

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TheMAGAlorian787 11 points ago +11 / -0

Everything this administration does hurts Americans. Literally everything. Fuck them all.

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HeavyVetting 7 points ago +7 / -0

He said it himself, he doesn't work for us. He works for the new world order.

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NooneFor2024II 2 points ago +2 / -0

Both sides fucking suck and dont give a shit about any of us.

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Herpawinski 10 points ago +14 / -4

More mpg is a good thing, IF it can happen. If Biden isn't talking out of his hat, if the goal is known to be achievable, IF it's financially possible, IF the car companies don't just ignore him.

In any case, it's the market that should be motivating car producers to improve mpg, not mid wit central planners.

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BadManOrange 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yeah, I'm all for going to the gas station less often, but you need to be able to actually do it and also still keep cars within a decent price range.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 13 points ago +15 / -2

Trucks. The most common car sold in the US is the F150. I drive a Ram 3500 dually.

This isnt even possible.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +5 / -2

I get 12 using my truck as grandpa's car to drive from town and back, 5 when doing real work with it.

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fauxgnaws 11 points ago +11 / -0

NHTSA said the rule is the "maximum feasible".

Which translates to only if everybody is miserable in a tiny econobox with 15+ second 0-to-60.

No thanks.

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2016TrumpMAGA 6 points ago +6 / -0

15+ second 0-to-60

Look at Mr. NHRA here. More like 60 seconds 0-50 (top speed).

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deplorablebot 8 points ago +8 / -0

This drastically increases the price of cars. Manufacturers will now need to develop many more smart cars and hybrids across their product line to get to an average mpg rating that meets the standard. They will need to do this whether the market is asking for it or not (it is not or they would be doing it). This added cost will be shifted across their entire product line. It is never a good thing for the government to step in and do this shit whether the outcome is possible or not. If someone wants a fucking smart car, they can get it now.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 6 points ago +8 / -2

This isnt smart car or hybrids, this is EV fuckery.

The calculations used to calculate EV efficiency are absurd - most are really in the range of 50-70, but they say 100-200.

I say this as someone pro-ev, just anti retarded government

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FireannDireach 4 points ago +4 / -0

They already have them. All of the big automakers have hybrids that can hit the target here. They're about $10k more than what most people can afford new, but hey, that's not the administration's problem.

Ford has the Hybrid Escape now. $30k. The Escape is supposed to be the 'affordable" car. Yep.

Granted, it's not surprising that a car industry fucked by the fake Coof and a shitty Biden economy will get supported by EPA standards that will make people looking for a new car pay more. That's standard Dem playbook.

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deplorablebot 4 points ago +4 / -0

I realize they already have vehicles with high MPG ratings. They will have to increase their AVERAGE MPG rating across their ENTIRE PRODUCT LINE. That's how the standard works. In order to do this, they will have to produce MORE vehicles that there is no increased demand for just to meet the standard. This cost will also be spread across entire product line. Additionally, they will continue reducing the size of trucks and SUVs as well as putting smaller, more fuel-efficient engines in these big vehicles. This dynamic has been ongoing already but is going to get drastically worse now, and fast.

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FireannDireach 2 points ago +2 / -0

Removing their non-hybrids will do just that, raise the average.

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Coprolite 10 points ago +10 / -0

Why only 49mpg? Why not 100mpg?

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NotADemThang 10 points ago +10 / -0

Fuck Joe And The Hoe!

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henri_derelicte 10 points ago +10 / -0

This is by design. By making the mileage standards nearly impossible to attain, there will be fewer cars to sell and/or cars will be more expensive, thus making car ownership less attainable to the middle class. Leftists need the middle/upper classes to be transit-dependent because they need the more affluent demographics to subsidize public transit for the poor.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +5 / -2

It is all fuckery with EVs. The calculations used to calculate EV efficiency are absurd - most are really in the range of 50-70, but they say 100-200.

I say this as someone pro-ev, just anti retarded government

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justified_paranoia 10 points ago +10 / -0

Hopefully the entire democrat voter fraud network is completely eliminated by the time we vote for president again in 2024, because absolutely nobody other than Trump will make these tyrannical decrees go away

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HeavyVetting 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good fucking luck frens

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NotDrunk 9 points ago +9 / -0

Used car prices will go even higher. Along with the need to maintain and repair them. If you are looking for a career change, now might be the time.

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SuperFreedomMan 9 points ago +9 / -0

Good luck ever getting work trucks to avg 50mpg. This retard did not think this through.

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sum_ting_wong 9 points ago +9 / -0

I doubt they care. Continuing to raise fuel prices goes hand-in-hand with this. Can't hit the magical MPG number? No problem, just pay the fee, and use more gas, which costs more (like $13/gal)

Scoundrels. The lot of them.

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henri_derelicte 7 points ago +7 / -0

These fuel standards aren’t meant to be attainable. By setting mileage standards that are impossible to achieve, it’s effectively forcing automakers to convert to making electric vehicles.

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Junionthepipeline 6 points ago +7 / -1

They thought it thru completely. You are under the impression that they intend you to be able to oen a vehicle and travel freely.your impression is incorrect.

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FireannDireach 4 points ago +4 / -0

If this exists in 2026 and is implemented, older model trucks will be worth gold. Depending on which way the wind blows in 2024, you could stockpile a few and make some profit in '26.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +3 / -1

When I use my truck for work, I am lucky to get 6.

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TrumpWonByALandslide 8 points ago +8 / -0

What vehicle averages 50 mpg?

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Brez 8 points ago +8 / -0

You will own nothing and you will be happy.

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amopheldupsidedown 5 points ago +5 / -0

my original Honda insight, three anemic cylinders with a stick shift, 2000 lbs and 67 hp. I can, without AC, get 60 mpg for a full tank

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ImpenetrableDeltoid 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s the rub

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TrumpWonByALandslide 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I got the point. 😅

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fauxgnaws 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's fleet average so if they sell 1 Prius Prime (130 mpge) and 6 Corollas (33 mpg) then they average 50 mpg.

Increasing efficiency 40% over 4 years is still absolutely moronic, but the actual mpg number is easier to hit than it seems.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +5 / -2

It is all fuckery with EVs. The calculations used to calculate EV efficiency are absurd - most are really in the range of 50-70, but they say 100-200.

I say this as someone pro-ev, just anti retarded government

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fauxgnaws 4 points ago +4 / -0

Depends on where you get the electricity from, but yeah generally EVs being like 50-70 mpg is pretty accurate.

Like Prime's battery is only 20 ish miles, so for many people that covers the daily commute, but for some people it's on gas much of the time and barely better than the regular one. But for this rule only the EPA's rating matters.

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R-A-T-S- 3 points ago +3 / -0

https://www.eliomotors.com/fleet/ Looks like these cars do. How much you wanna bet Biden and His crew have stock in this company?

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Prussian_Pepe 8 points ago +8 / -0

The shit Obummer passed has already ruined most modern cars. The only way they can keep up with increasing the milage each ear is to make the cars lighter metal, less metal, more plastic, cheaper, cheaper, lighter, crappier. Windshields are so light these days most of them are cracking under 1000 miles. Only fucking retards would pass this shit.

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DeePlorable 3 points ago +3 / -0

That is true about the windshields. We average about two windshield replacements a year on each of our two cars (4 total). If a little pebble hits it on the highway it instantly cracks. The Safelite guys must love my family. Thank God we pay extra for the extra insurance plan that covers this with no deductibles.

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T_DforTrump2020 8 points ago +8 / -0

Both of mine average 14mpg. Check on your 93 Octane friends. We're not doing ok.

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308freedom 6 points ago +6 / -0

Diesel bros are also feeling the pain at the pumps. We're all in this together.

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Retardloserimsogay 4 points ago +4 / -0

I know fren, 7.3 diesel pede here.

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Dickshake 3 points ago +3 / -0

It hurts

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The_garynator 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have a premium only daily and a diesel truck. I feel your pain lol

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +3 / -1

I get 12, luckily in a situation to afford it.

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findthewarmspot 7 points ago +7 / -0

Where does the Biden administration plan to put the millions of unusable cars? Float them on barges in the ocean?

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DeePlorable 5 points ago +5 / -0

They can use them to house all the homeless.

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raptormissle 7 points ago +7 / -0

That stupid shit for brains can't even average 49 coherent words per day.

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TrumpSupporter45 7 points ago +7 / -0

So average vehicle fuel economy has to double (from 28 mpg) in 4 years time, super realistic and totally achievable goal.

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24601 7 points ago +7 / -0

The only sensible response:

FJB !

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 7 points ago +9 / -2

49 is absurd.

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Junionthepipeline 8 points ago +8 / -0

They will compromise with the Republican down to 47

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Krat 7 points ago +7 / -0

Bipartisan support !!

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +4 / -2

Hopefully struck down by the courts.

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HeavyVetting 2 points ago +2 / -0

No standing

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crackerstacker 6 points ago +6 / -0

Is this even technically possible? Perhaps the idea is that it isn't and no cars can be sold... Unless they are gaylectric.

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FerkenBlerkin 6 points ago +6 / -0

This scumbag keeps making demands and I'll add another turbo just to break into the single digit mpg range. What a toolbar this criminal tyrant loser is.

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ThisIsHowItStarts 5 points ago +5 / -0

None of this is realistic. None of it! It’s just more rage porn

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Gyrfalcon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Something to feed the green progressives. Keeps them happy! The dims don't care about anyone else.

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Patriotarchy 4 points ago +4 / -0

All of Bidens bullshit will get repealed before it comes into effect.

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paul_rick 5 points ago +5 / -0

How can it be repealed when it was never legally passed in the first place?

NOTHING this "administration" has done is legal or binding and has absolutely no validity. Fantasies are not legally enforceable.

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HeavyVetting 4 points ago +4 / -0

Are they allowed to use the Volkswagen method?

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Snoman 4 points ago +4 / -0

These people are just stupid, ignore them all

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StadiumHopper 4 points ago +5 / -1

What a 💩4🧠 enemy of the nation. He's a liar, he's a dumb-💩, he has a law degree which means I respect the toilet more and he's an ass. I can't stand the idiot bigot that he is and always has been. He and his party rigged the election. We all know it. we and his party and media had been taking bribes, laundering U.S. Taxpayer funds right through State Department grants through foreign governments. The laptop is proof of all if it. The laptop probably tells us of other politicians on the take with the big man. It's was treason by Democrats, Biden, Clinton, the heads of the CIA and FBI, and they think we don't know. While we can't do shit about it, we know. We all know exactly who and what they are.

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cd3dog 4 points ago +4 / -0

The Biden* Admin says a lot of things..... very many of them true yet?

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radioactivedk 4 points ago +4 / -0

All of this with no legislative action demonstrates why the administrative agencies need to be defunded.

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AbrahamLincoln 4 points ago +4 / -0

They've been doing this shit for 30 years. They always extend it because it's retarded and would never happen.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +3 / -1

Congress passed a law dictating that the EPA has this power, the EPA being an executive agency and Biden being head of the executive branch...

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me-no-likely3 4 points ago +4 / -0

Imagine the gimmicks they’ll come up with the meet this bullshit goal. Cadillac Escalades & the brand new 2026 Cadillac Street Legal Hybrid Riding Lawn Mower

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halfstep 4 points ago +4 / -0

You can only drive 50 miles per week, sorry plebs

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CaptainWinston 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hey, Joe Baja, my cock isn’t as big as Big Mike’s but you can come suck it.

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Bannonmeharder 3 points ago +3 / -0

Impossible

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2016TrumpMAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is insanely fucking stupid. There is NO WAY US automakers will be able to meet this.

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DeePlorable 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they do, they would probably charge $30,000-$40,000 for a base model, no frills car which most of the middle class won't be able to afford. They want us all riding bicycles or electric bikes.

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sum_ting_wong 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Your car gets better mileage because of us, of course we're going to raise gas taxes too, but it won't hurt as bad. See?"

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Susurro 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think he means $49 per gallon.

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rextexMG 3 points ago +3 / -0

That’s insane.

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user365927285937 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why stop there? Why not a trillion mpg?