posted ago by johnqpublic864 ago by johnqpublic864 +7 / -0

Did anyone else watch? Lol, what a joke. Mayweather never steps on the gas. I've got to wonder if someone, perhaps Ellerbe or Haymon, got in his ear and told him carry Paul so they could keep the farce going.

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CaptainRon77 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have no doubt in my mind the agreed upon goal was to go all 8 rounds and nobody gets hurt.

These are bizarro matchups to begin with, purely for entertainment. There is nothing to win or lose, only a payday for actively participating.

None of these exhibition fights are real fights. I’m not even sure what I’d say to someone who thought they were real. It’s all obvious from the get go that Paul brothers events are manufactured.

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johnqpublic864 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mayweather carried him, there's no arguing that, but it was hardly staged WWE style [and even pro wrestling matches aren't AS staged as many think. Most don't plan out the entire match, if any of the match. Most call it on the fly. They may only work on certain high spots for bigger matches.] If it were staged, it would get out. Every mofo has a camera studio in their pocket. Of course the fight hype was fake/manufactured.

Nate Robinson and Ben Askren both have too big of egos to have just taken dives, plus Robinson didn't need the money. Jake Paul has boxing training, but he's yet to fight an actual boxer. It's like putting a mediocre basketball player vs. a total non-player. You don't have to stage it or fake it, but the player can take it easy on the non-player.

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elleand202 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mayweather carried him

Mayweather literally carried him. I'm willing to bet that there was an agreement between them to let the fight play itself out over the rounds and to not have any knockouts. And as you can see from the link, when Logan accidentally got a little too sleepy after Mayweather punched him, he held up Logan until he could recover.

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johnqpublic864 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not trying to be rude, but you must not watch much boxing, and that's not an insult. Paul wasn't knocked out. I've seen people saying that and it's the so-called "Phantom Punch" myth all over again. He was "falling in," laying on Mayweather, which he did a lot. He could've been gassed, could've gotten stunned/stung, but he wasn't out on his feet. He was tying up a lot because he didn't want to get hit and it was probably part of his training and fight strategy. It's a lame strategy, but they'll lay on opponents sometimes trying to wear them down. He outweighs Mayweather by ~50 lbs, he's taller, and his abilities are clearly very limited.

Anyhow, I don't disagree that there could've been an agreement beforehand for Mayweather to carry him 8 rounds, but I doubt it was said out loud so plainly. Mayweather wouldn't carry him without a financial incentive. He must have an interest in Paul's next circus "fight(s)." Like maybe he gets a small % of the money since Paul can now say he went "the distance" (8 rounds lol). I'll never pay for any of it, but I'll watch whatever I can find for free.

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elleand202 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not trying to be rude, but you must not watch much boxing, and that's not an insult.

No I don't because boxing is probably the most boring martial art form out there.

Paul wasn't knocked out. I've seen people saying that and it's the so-called "Phantom Punch" myth all over again. He was "falling in," laying on Mayweather, which he did a lot. He could've been gassed, could've gotten stunned/stung, but he wasn't out on his feet. He was tying up a lot because he didn't want to get hit and it was probably part of his training and fight strategy. It's a lame strategy, but they'll lay on opponents sometimes trying to wear them down. He outweighs Mayweather by ~50 lbs, he's taller, and his abilities are clearly very limited.

I watched the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight a few years back and Floyd was Mr. Huggy Bear the whole damn time. I've seen that strategy. In my opinion, Paul wasn't employing that strategy, at least not the way that Floyd does it. I'll grant you though, that because Paul is a novice, maybe that would account for him being hot garbage.

Mayweather wouldn't carry him without a financial incentive.

Well word is that he made $20 million on this fight. If there's some deal, say to fight Paul's brother, then there's definitely the incentive to go along to get along. I'm not calling Mayweather a Butch Coolidge, but certainly a wink and a nod to "make sure the audience get's their money's worth" and you end up with a fight where Mayweather purposefully doesn't knock him out or let him go down (allegedly).

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elleand202 2 points ago +2 / -0

It was only marginally more real than a WWE match.

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Beeferson 1 point ago +1 / -0

fake match but have you ever seen Money mayweather box? He is a defense first fighter and always fights like that. THat said it was a joke.

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johnqpublic864 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are no real boxing fans around here except me. I've seen every single Mayweather fight since his pro debut. It wasn't a fake fight, that's just what dumbasses who don't know anything say. They're almost as bad as the churnalists that regurgitate the same fake news over and over. Rocky vs. Apollo or Drago are fake fights. This was just Mayweather carrying a clown in the circus.

Maybe he has promoter rights or something on Paul's next circus match(es), or maybe he told friends to bet on it going "the distance." It wasn't because he wants to fight Jake Paul. That's the dumbest one I've heard. If he wanted a Jake Paul match, he'd have destroyed Logan Paul in the first round and talked shit to Jake who was ringside. Then everyone who bought a ticket to the circus would've bitched that the match was too short.

I've also seen a lot of bs about how this somehow hurts boxing and how boxing is dying, MMA will replace boxing, blah blah blah. Boxers make more than those fake UFC fighters, who can't punch worth a damn standing up [and don't get me started on the dry humping on the ground, pretty fn gay] and boxing PPVs generate more money than MMA PPVs. MMA has sold a lot more t-shirts and gym memberships to larpers than boxing in the last 15-20 years, there's no arguing that.

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Beeferson 1 point ago +1 / -0

cool

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Texan1stAmerican2nd 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree with you right up to the end. When boxers starts stepping into MMA rings and playing by those rules everyone will know. Boxing is beautiful, elegant, dangerous and a legitimate marital art. But they all know that in the octagon they would lose. That's not a diss on the value and legitimacy of boxing. That dry humping on the ground is one of the best martial arts in the conversation. MMA vs Boxong isn't even a fair conversation. You'll likely disagree, and I'm going to try and research boxers who went to MMA and dominated.

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johnqpublic864 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was just trolling on my MMA comments.