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preparation-H 7 points ago +7 / -0

Dammit, right after I got off of Google

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deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
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deleteme1234 5 points ago +5 / -0

They will all comply, when push comes to shove.

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Cannonball 2 points ago +2 / -0

What about tutanota?

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've heard of it but I don't know anything about it.

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Cannonball 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's German and is encrypted. Half the storage size of proton and free.

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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah it's what keeps me skeptical. The one that didn't comply was shut down by the government, so what does that say about the others? Apparently they came back with another technology but I haven't looked into it yet. The only solution in my opinion is to make it so that you don't have any information to give to the feds in the first place. Then they can shut you down, but they can't compromise you or your user's data.

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AlFreeman 7 points ago +8 / -1

I'll play devil's advocate.

No company is going to going resist a court order on your behalf. No matter what they might say. If you're being tracked by government agents, don't trust any company to help hide you.

The most important thing is the encrypted emails are still inaccessible (presumably) and ProtonMail couldn't decrypt them if they wanted to. This is why I use them, and so my emails aren't being scanned by AI to sell me shit.

It's worth noting that every single headline is framing this person as a "climate activist" as if that is why the Swiss Government is after them. Not that it matters, but still it's an attempt to generate outrage/clicks.

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Chillin_in_PNW 1 point ago +1 / -0

No company is going to going resist a court order on your behalf.

Seems like at least one has from a comment in the chain above this one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

The service suspended its operations on August 8, 2013 after the U.S. Federal Government ordered it to turn over its Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) private keys, in order to allow the government to spy on Edward Snowden's email.

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Cannonball 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unless you set everything to auto-self destruct no?

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BlueDrache 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also asking for a friend.

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illegal 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can anyone suggest competitors to ProtonMail as I have just started using them but have no reservations making a switch, especially if this is as bad as it looks.

There's Tutanota that does the exact same stuff as Protonmail claimed to do (the funding comes from the paid tier like protonmail), and there's cock.li which is just an email service set up by a dumbass who doesn't care about your data and doesn't like police (the money funding it is the sister site where they let you rent servers in the same building, they even let you pay with crypto!)

here's a few invites for cock.li (as it requires an invite code now to make an account sadly)

https://cock.li/register?invite=07efe40f5e67e07b51233e925aba2174899fd23030f340ed0bac3c1bf71ec692

https://cock.li/register?invite=246e0e65c03818064cca31a221195144732fc7508638424e86ce907bf2d19892

https://cock.li/register?invite=3b85f1734aa22e7f9798b613860d07da895f0a15505c2779c494c79e21af6cb8

https://cock.li/register?invite=8d837de6027c73e262ef8f5767c91489417d75ae6b5d980183bd4836a2f21bc3

https://cock.li/register?invite=ba6d057bcd2358ef448eebd687ee05f886e93cefcb86c573033b9b55fd091d20

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80960KA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Really these days there are enough trunk taps that they can likely flowgraph any packet if you're important enough to get the eye of Sauron pointed your way. They probably can't see the content if it's using current SSL, but they can see where it starts and where it goes just from IP headers.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

Alright, smoke signals it is!