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posted ago by MisterMeister ago by MisterMeister +31 / -1

I know that day will soon come, so what can I use against my employer to avoid myself getting the coof vaccine? There is no way I'll willingly get injected to whatever they concocted, but at the same time I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place since I want to get paid as well.

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MrCanoeHead 21 points ago +21 / -0
  1. I have real reservations and concerns about discussing my medical condition(s) outside of my family doctor. 2. My medical condition(s) are none of your gd business.
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stepping_razor123 8 points ago +8 / -0

What is your profession? If in public health you might need a new job. If you put hydro poles in the ground tell them to mind their own business as medical stuff is confidential.

Workplace issue lawyers usually work for free upfront but take a third of anything you win in a settlement. Seek them out contact them in the meantime. Most lawyers are libtards so find one who “gets it” and will fight for you.

Start saving now because if they fire you I suspect you will win a court case but it can take up to 2 years to get to that point.

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MisterMeister [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Security guard on the weekends, lab technician for a medical company on the weekdays. This medical company I work for has nothing to do with vaccination instruments and instead creates tracking instruments for the heart.

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stepping_razor123 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yes agree with this. Start documenting everything in detail dates, times, who said exactly what in the meantime.

If they want you vaxxed they may push you out. If you have it documented they will likely pay you out before it even gets to court. But you would have to get things rolling legally first. They are counting on you rolling over not fighting.

Or they may just ignore it and leave you be which would be great. Wish you the best. Very stressful time

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MisterMeister [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

What also concerns me is that even though the law isn't currently on their side, we have seen time and time again that the powers that be are more than willing to throw the Charter of Rights straight out the window for the sake of 'muh public health and safety'.

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UrbanZenMonk 1 point ago +1 / -0

At that point, look for illegal documentation that says you're vaccinated.

Fuck these people they blow through laws, dont abide by them either.

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JordanPederson 4 points ago +4 / -0

Find a doctor that will sign off on your vaccination for $$$.

Remember we live in a corrupt authoritarian regime now - bribes are the way.

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LeapForward 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ask if they will sign a legal form taking responsibility if the vaccine harms you. Contact the Justice Center. https://www.jccf.ca/

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BeetlejuiceForSenate 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your Rights to decline a Vaccine in the context of Employment

Summary:

There are 2 types of law in Canada:

Public Law

Governs the relationship between the state and the citizen

In the context of you being an employee of the government trying to impose mandatory vaccination (either through collective bargaining or the course of a contract), then that would be unconstitutional and you can invoke the charter.

Private Law

Governs the relationships between private citizens (i.e you and your employer)

In a private context, if you sign a contract agreeing to be vaccinated as part of your employment and you subsequently refuse, then the employer does have a basis to dismiss you.

If you are already employed under a contact in which there are no provisions for vaccinations, and subsequent to this contract the employer tries to impose vaccination, then you can lawfully decline. If you are fired for refusing vaccination in this context then that would constitute wrongful dismissal and you would have grounds to sue your employer.

The Supreme Court has held that even where the charter does not strictly apply, the values of the charter still apply. Further, the Supreme Court has held that common law that is enforced by courts is also subject to constitutional and charter scrutiny.

The same actions that would be considered a constitutional violation by public authorities would be considered an unenforceable part of a private contract. There is a doctrine of unconscionability in common law that if a proviso shocks the conscious then it is unenforceable since "it is taking undue advantage of an inequality in bargaining power." Courts in common law cannot enforce a provision of a contract demanding medical intervention without informed consent since it would violate the charter.

Therefore, mandatory vaccination in all employment contexts would be unconstitutional and/or illegal. If you are fired in a private context, then your only remedy is to sue for wrongful dismissal.

What if I reluctantly take the vaccine just to keep my job? What if the vaccine harms me?

You could sue your employer though you might not succeed since you agreed.

What you can do is to mitigate your damage by getting your employer to acknowledge that "you are agreeing to take the vaccine even though you do not wish to take it, and if there are any side effects or damages that the employer acknowledges that they will be strictly liable to compensate you for any physical or neurological damage from the vaccine."

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KirbyMorph 2 points ago +2 / -0

You only need a piece of paper with the words, "FUCK YOU", written on it. Give it to them when they ask.

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twentyonepepes 2 points ago +2 / -0

I recommend you quit now and start making your own way in eCommerce.

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JuliusSqueezer 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s none of their business. They have absolutely no right to ask you about your past medical history.

Tell them to stuff that question up their ass.

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Smeg 2 points ago +2 / -0

It would be up to them to prove they have a right to do so.

In any event, refer them to the Canadian Charter of rights and freedoms and the

Nuremberg Code.

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Ninki333 2 points ago +2 / -0

Play the religion card. Better yet start attending church. Walk with Jesus. The armour of God is faith and you will find salvation.

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TheWhiteWizard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Say “no”.

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Brotherhoodlum 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's still experimental and has not passed animal trials. The short and long term effects are unknown and therefore making uptake mandatory is a violation of the Nuremburg code.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code

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RightOfSask 1 point ago +3 / -2

Your notice of resignation, because you know that if you work for an employer that asks for such stuff, you will be fucked either way.

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NMWNMW 1 point ago +1 / -0

I plan to acquire a form that says im vnated