39 () posted 81 days ago by Wizard08 81 days ago by Wizard08 +39 / -0 95 comments share 95 comments share save hide report block hide replies
This should be the thing that sets off the fighting but it won’t because republicans are massive cucks
I think this is a glowie op to set bait for any would-be revolutionaries dumb enough to get caught up in this because they got screwed so hard with the January 6th footage releases. Anyone who's dumb enough to get involved in this is going to get arrested while Trump goes free once they've got who they wanted and parade them around on the news as far right terrorists.
Don't say I didn't warn you, I hope people have the brains to stay away, it's bait for dumb people.
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
People don't like to hear it (because coming to terms with living with tyranny their whole lives is uncomfortable), but America should have revolted a long time ago. Closer to century ago than not.
There are smarter ways to go about it, protests now generally are just places for the police to film people they don't like and pick them up later at 3:00am when no one's watching. People need to get organised in other ways and definitely not do it outside of any government buildings etc. where officials can pretend they were harassed by a mob among other things like with January 6th.
I also think that since they know they can't get rid of Trump and have nothing on him. They are constantly trying to bait his supporters and anyone else they think might finally lose it that has mental problems etc. into being violent. Nearly everything the state does now is psyops bait and it's a shit test designed to make you go crazy or drive people already on the edge into doing something stupid.
It's about economic and information warfare now, we need to learn how to fight that war in earnest, the boomer way doesn't work for the modern era.
yup there are subtler ways to go about it from putting perishables where they dont belong, to encoraging vermin to move into a place their not wanted the idea is to slow down production passively if they cant convine because the place is being fumigated for the 90th time in a row they are likely to just demolish the building and build a new one bounus if its the politicans house and not the place of work that gets it. be a bit creative after all rats are easy to get and breed fast but wont infest a place if its recently been bombed with poison.
"One combatant can perform many of them, without having to turn to collaborators or having to make a detailed plan beforehand. These are acts that can be done practically in an improvised way every time an occasion presents itself... However, necessary caution should be taken, and only when the task requires it, should another person or persons participate in or have knowledge of a given act..." - The Freedom Fighter's Manual
You won't change the system from within or via some mythical cultural shift. People have tried far longer than you have even thought about the problem, let alone possible solutions.
The best approach outside of revolution (which isn't something that will happen without radical destruction to everyday elements people truly take for absolute granted) is to break away from the system as much as possible and be as independent as you can be (homestead, learn skills, hunt, homeschool, etc, etc). It doesn't solve the problem, but at this stage it won't get solved until things get much, much worse. So take care of yourself and those close to you and that's the best you can do for now.
That's exactly what I advocate for but I'm not talking about just a break away from society, I'm talking about doing a full setup of our own infrastructure among other things.
Gotta walk before you can run.
Yup. Specifically December 23rd.
To be fair, they tried. It was the arguably that failure that has allowed so much tyranny to flourish ever since. But I agree with the other poster that the creation of the Federal Reserve is another key date that should have spurred revolution.
They should protest; just dress up like antifa, say you're against Trump, then storm the courthouse and burn it down because "they're just going to let him go cause white supremecy, blah blah".
Unironically, tho. If Trump supporters go out and protest, they need to adopt black bloc tactics like all dressing the same, obscuring their faces, bringing PPE like gas masks, helmets, and padding, not bringing their cell phones, etc., etc.
If people weren't dumb, they'd have seen Trump for what he was. A giant shakeup to the Republican side of things to show that their status quo had failed, and they needed to change to survive. He himself being irrelevant other than being a bullheaded agent of chaos, as gay as that sounds.
Instead people got caught up in him and thought he was something special who was going to fix everything.
Interesting way to put it. Now I know why I liked him.
I liked the Michael Moore 'human hand grenade thrown at Washington D.C.' allegory. The whole speech was fantastic, if you stop listening before the part where he tries to claim they're wrong and will regret it soon after he takes office.
He wasn't a Republican when David Frum was.
Sounds good to me.
He's a billionaire.
You don't get to call anyone else a cuck when your ass isn't out in the streets.
Just yesterday, a guy here was assuring me that the US and its European puppets are 'democracies'. So much for that.
Democracy now means the "good guys" win.
And how many people on the so-called right are going to be dancing around or even outright celebrating this obvious political prosecution?
The mere fact that they feel the need to do this is a the proof I need that Trump is still a threat to the regime
Very few, I think, if only because they don't want to totally discredit themselves and create a free-for-all where this sort of political prosecution can be turned on someone they like.
The irony is that they are the greatest threat to the regime, through their heavy-handed treatment of Trump. It exposes them for what they are: oligarchic tyrants. Trump was no threat to them (unfortunately), but they're so obsessed with completely destroying him to make an example of what happens to someone who challenges them, that they go fully mask off.
And while I agree with you that they want Trump out of the way, it is also not impossible that they do this to boost him in the primary because they think he is easier to beat. Or that there is no plan to this beyond retribution.
I disagree that Trump is no threat to them: I think there's a bit of a defeatist fallacy in dissident right communities like this where we tend to think the regime is much more stable than it is. In reality, it's a house of cards, and their increasing willingness to resort to transparent authoritarianism demonstrates just how fragile their hold on power really is. Trump represents the one thing they are most afraid of: a member of the elite, too rich to be bought or bullied, who doesn't subscribe to their worldview. He terrifies them.
Agreed, but it's very simplistic to think that you can beat the regime with the regime's own elections - and not because of massive fraud that I don't believe in. There is an entire apparatus in place to make sure those elections mean absolutely nothing. Elections are for the legitimation of the order, not for deciding what policies should exist. Even if you did win an election with a highly competent man who knows how to wield the levers of power, it will always be swimming against the tide, and everything will be swept away the next time around.
Which does not exempt anyone from the duty to resist this great evil, which even in countries like Zimbabwe can entail participation in elections. But you should know what you are up against.
Regimes tend to overreact to even minor challenges to their power. And obviously, some of it is not overreaction but consolidation based on a phony threat, like the Reichstag fire.
Yes, which is why I support him. I don't know why though. They can't buy or bully him, but they could have flattered him into supporting them. They took the worst possible approach in dealing with Trump: attacking him just makes him more defiant and more anti-them.
Remember: he was a DEMOCRAT. I am not sure how many proper convictions he has beyond CHYYYNA BAD. But the regime attacked him and the GOP diehards supported him, and that's why he's with them.
I think what sets billionaire "good guys" like Trump and Elon apart is that they understand the importance of aspiration and freedom of innovation to continued prosperity.
The rest of the elite, even the first-generation, self-made ones like Bill Gates seem obsessed with the idea of consolidating their position by eradicating the middle class. If they destroy people's freedom to innovate, and their ability to be self-sufficient without depending on the elite, they believe they can ensure there will never again be anyone who can dislodge them or compete with them. Only a very few, Trump included, understand that everyone's continued prosperity, including that of the super rich, depends on the freedom to innovate, and that can't exist without a free market of ideas. Not to mention that the elite will never be safe from the underclass without the promise of aspiration: if people don't feel they have any avenue to improve their circumstances and ensure a better future for their children, they will rapidly come to the conclusion that they have nothing to lose.
Trump has some pretty silly ideas, and he wasn't as effective in office as he could have been, but what draws people to him that he clearly and obviously values the same things about American and Western society that ordinary, non-elite people value, and that sets him apart from almost every other billionaire and politician.
Bill Gates the third, you mean?
A paranoid king stabbing at random shadows still has a castle and an army. Just because they are terrified and overreacting doesn't mean their power structure is actually within reach of any of us.
Perhaps a real monster of a leader could accomplish it, but Trump is not that. He isn't half as unhinged and willing to break the rules as they paint him.
He's better than nothing. The elite theorists are right about one thing: without maverick elites like Trump on our side, we have no chance at all. There has never been a successful grassroots revolution with no elite support: not once in all of recorded history.
He is better than nothing, I don't disagree. I voted for him after all.
But let's not take their ridiculous reactions as indicative of them being actually vulnerable. They might think they are, and are acting on that paranoia, but that's par for the course of being an elite to begin with. Irrational reactions to minor irrelevant threats.
The Haitian revolution was a grassroots revolution, started by slaves without any elite support.
They had unusually terrible lives, even for slaves, so nothing to loose. They had a separate culture, religion, language, race which made them completely isolated from the elite group. They also were in the majority by a massive margin.
The revolution spread like a fire. It started at one plantation, news of success got out, the next plantation revolted, and the next, and the next, and so on. After a while, the slaves had congregated to marauding armies that roamed through the land and absorbed supplies and new fighters wherever they went.
The revolution was initially successful, and a moderate government formed. Slavery was a abolished and the government was headed by a black man, but the plantation economy remained in place and the elite remained predominantly white. So it has actually happened once in recorded history.
A counterrevolutionary army was dispatched from France and reconquered the capital. They were soon defeated by a more extreme rebel group, which then committed a terrible genocide. That government was... not a success, to put it mildly.
I don't see how that situation is in the slightest bit similar to modern America. Live needs to be really fucking bad until a grassroots revolt can actually happen.
The Haitian revolutionaries received logistical, financial and military support from the British and the Spanish, who hoped to use it to undermine French interests and power in the Caribbean, and it worked. They likely wouldn't have been successful without that support.
Could also be staged to make him a martyr.
I know you meant politicians/pundits but I wanted to mention that some actual regular people on the right want it to happen to accelerate things or as "a wake up call" to normie conservatives. I was watching a Razorfist stream last night where many people echoed that sentiment.
I'm sure Razor will quickly release a rant correctly lambasting those people for the cucks they are
It just never ends.
Fifty years from now Trump's mummified corpse will be displayed on the WH lawn for ritual debasement--they'll put donkey ears on it and have trannies fuck children before it to appease Moloch.
I think the odds of the world surviving the neoliberal order for fifty years is pretty slim.
If he goes to jail he will be Epstein'd
On what charges?
Doesn't really matter when they could just pick whatever they want in the first place.
They'll figure that out later.
Apparently it's about the Stormy Daniels thing, claiming he bribed her rather than paying a settlement.
Lol how is that even possible to arrest someone for
They'll figure that out later? 🤔
Something to do with paperwork related to Stormy Daniels is the false pretense they're using.
They have to suppose that he made an illegal campaign contribution and that NY has the standing or whatever to prosecute him for it.
According to "legal minds" who made declarations today, neither thing is established law.
just sit back and watch the show. It's almost like he's back on WWE but the politics version. What a psyop.
You'd have to have several big depositors at a smaller bank to have an impact. You'd be hoping to kick off a domino effect once word hits the streets that more banks have failed.
The only way to really crash the system is if the big ones like Bank of America, Chase, and Wells Fargo are in trouble. That's not going to happen unless panic spreads to the normies and they all run to the ATM.
I like it, but it won't work because the regime would rather centralize the banks using the bank runs, and would also just ask banks to stop allowing withdraws, which they will do.
The fact they still have money in the banks at all explains why nothing they do will be effective.
If he wins the election from prison and then Parsons himself, I expect more rioting. The big thing will be getting the next guy to replace him. I want DeSantis where he is, so there is somewhere safe.
Why would the right riot?
I mean, yeah, there would be riots in blue areas as they literally wouldn't be able to control themselves and would probably shoot a cop in celebration, or set fire to some random white kid, but I don't see riots coming.
Civil Disobedience and disruption? Yeah, that would be more likely, but not rioting.
I meant the left rioting. They will say it's proof trump is evil and end up destroying their own cities again.
I still think it'll be celebratory rioting. Most of the BLM stuff was for the purposes of culling left-wing normies. In this case, it'll mostly be incoherent screaming and crying, and maybe a drive-by of some random asians in a suburb kind of a deal. That and plowing into a Nordstrom's with a car and looting it.
Why not both?
Because the standard BLM ones were paid for, in order to intimidate the normies. They don't really have to pay for riots to intimidate normies right now. Doesn't serve a purpose. Trump goes to jail: okay, so what? The average "center-lefty" is going to think to herself: "Well, I'm sure he did something. Maybe Bernie can run again!" like the idiot she is.
There's no reason for a member of The Bloods to confront her in an elevator and scream "Black Lives Matter you white bitch!". She still thinks she's on the winning team, so they don't need to intimidate her into thinking she has to get with the winning team.
I meant if he won.
OH. Oh well, in that case, yeah, massive riots.
Paid rioters everywhere.
If Democrats want to play the indictment game, well, there are plenty of big name Democrats a Republican State Attorney General can have perp walked. Hunter Biden, for example, is an obvious choice. I mean, pick your crime, there are so many to choose from.
Of course, Republicans would have to realize that they are at war, first.
I badly want to see Beto O'Rourke arrested on anything.
The die is cast.
I wonder if sitting in a jail cell if he'd finally admit he should have done something or if he'll just put himself to sleep with assuring declarations about lowest unemployment among women, blacks, etc...
This is how you win Tropico. Si si si si El Presidente. We need a Biden meme where he's in full-on El Jefe junta uniform
'go into the building' - someone somewhere
Stay cozy and enjoy the show
Honestly, it doesn't mean anything. Protest at some specific red-loyal area if you want, but for the most part, I still think apathy to their charges is just fine.
Now yes, the fact that there aren't going to be protests over 500,000 in number, means that the Neo-Con right will just say: "See?!! Literally no republican supports him. Trump is dead. Maga is dead. Oh, by the way DeSantis is Hitler, and DeSantis with Maga obviously can't go forward, guess you'll have to vote Haley. Fag." But, of course, that too is disinformation and demoralization.
Charge him, impeach him, do whatever you want, but don't ever forget to eat shit and die, because fuck you I'll promote subversion, civil disobedience, and independence among everyone I know.
Protest and take our nation back will be called incitement.
Think this seals 2024, Trump will be the nominee and will win handily in November.
You guys know this only helps him, right? Seriously, his polling numbers went up with every impeachment. This will be (rightfully) seen as a gross overstep by the Democrats, and on a gut level people will feel the desperation in this move.
This translates into more moderates (and even some Democrats) voting Republican, and puts more untapped ballots up for grabs when the Republicans start going door-to-door and harvesting ballots.
Yeah it sucks, but the more heavy handed the Democrats become, the more people become sympathetic to the other side.
100% of the reason Democrats are arresting him is a psyop to boost his electoral chances because the Democrats know the only way they will win, is if Trump is the nominee.
Don't fall for it. This is pure bait.
You and Matt Walsh are fucking retards for this opinion.
That's like saying that the terror campaign on May 29th 2020 was an attempt to re-elect Donald Trump.
It wasn't. The Left hates Trump with an undying passion and would be happy to kill him if there weren't enough people in positions of power to realize that the blowback could actually harden the right beyond all control. LBJ's coup after JFK's death did nothing but absolutely cement the former Kennedy admins into permanent opposition, and RFK's death made the progressives utterly unbending, and MLK's death pushed the country into some of the largest riots in it's history, and made Black National Socialist and White Communist terrorism absolutely normal for 15 years. So, for now, they know better.
This is a dog-whistle to the progressives. This specific DA is absolutely dead-set on pursuing Trump regardless of sanity or law. She's been like this since before Day 1. Getting the Left to scream about Trump, instead of allowing them to notice that their progressive heroes are bailing out even more banks in the face of total economic collapse is the only purpose.
It's frightening how everyone already forgot the recent bank collapses just a couple days ago.
Oh and the train mess too. jesus I think i'd rather have nukes start raining now at this point.
they'll win regardless since they can cheat the system. What's stupid is everyone thinking any rep but trump can beat a rigged system
people like you are a cancer on the Right.
Trump had 4 years as President and he didn't beat the system. We have proof he can't.
So since I know you're lying about why you support Trump, why don't you tell us the real reason you support him?
You are woefully naive if you think you still have a properly functioning government...
I thought you qtards were already done with your little cult? Millions of fake ballots dumped and you still thibk rino desabtis or comrade niki haley would overcome the fraud. You are as embarraassing as mitt romney
this sub in general is basically conslite
Consume BigCon propaganda and get excited for more BigCon propaganda! Im gonna vote so hard! Trust the plan, teust sessions, Trust Q!
He's guilty anyways. Just like Andrew Tate is guilty. Coomers all.
Aint that right?
Trump has been pretty much fried for a while now, just a matter of when.
"When it rains, it pours" as the saying goes. I would expect more charges to drop