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ClownTamer 17 points ago +17 / -0

Although he’s very articulate, most of his arguments rest entirely on ignorance. When he was on Tim Pool the first time, Tim wasn’t even trying to debate him much, but any point or example Tim brought up, Vaush was entirely unfamiliar with. Like he had never once at all looked into any of the things he was talking about. So he dismissed most of the conversation because he either was ignorant of the details or feigned ignorance, neither of which speak well of him.

Saying he’s never heard a single compelling argument against owning actual child porn means he’s never once had a conversation about it or looked into it. It’s not something I think about, but off the top of my head I can think of all manner of reasons it should be illegal, as could almost any human being. I’m sure he could too, if he bothered to try.

I think he’s an ideal leftist avatar for many because he’s about the most a lot of them strive for. Have some kind of following. Be able to speak around in circles well. Play video games. He’s their Chad. It’s a low bar but it’s where they’ve set it.

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JohnSmith1882 13 points ago +13 / -0

He talks slowly and deliberately and says a lot of words, but he's never actually saying anything. One has to be pretty dimwitted (this is directed at his fans) to think a person like him is saying anything meaningful when they speak.

There's an old song called "She ain't pretty, she just looks that way". For people like him it's more like "He ain't articulate, he just sounds that way".

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ClownTamer 8 points ago +8 / -0

It’s a lot like Obama and all the rest though. It’s always vapid sophistry but if you went to college and took classes like that, it’s in line with most of what’s on the syllabus and the professors in many humanities classes.

The dark side of sophistry like that is that usually if you need to talk that long about nothing, you have nothing to say. That’s probably partly why a lot of people took to Trump. Most probably can’t articulate what was wrong with Obama types, but felt Trump was more honest because he didn’t say a ton about nothing.

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JohnSmith1882 6 points ago +6 / -0

It’s a lot like Obama and all the rest though.

Yup. Obama and most politicians are very good at saying nothing while sounding like they are saying something profound or important.

but felt Trump was more honest because he didn’t say a ton about nothing.

I think that is a pretty solid observation.

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The_Gay_Deceiver 6 points ago +6 / -0

He's one of those people who sit and articulate their own opinions to themselves over and over until it sounds "perfect" in his head, then when he presents it and meets valid opposition that he didn't think of, he just words the same thing differently since he's had a lot of practice doing that, changing minor details to force his opponent to address a different thing even though they've already refuted his central point. Then he just does that until they give up and Vaush interprets it as successfully defending the original point.

He's pretty much incapable of having an actual argument.

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ClownTamer 8 points ago +8 / -0

In his defense, he is actually arguing, but he’s not doing it in good faith. Usually you don’t convince the other side, but the audience, and Vaush’s ‘not giving up’ and taking advantage of the good will of others is probably why he appears persuasive to many people that don’t know any better. If someone else actually grilled him and wouldn’t let him swerve away, he’d probably shit his pants, assuming they weren’t already soiled by virtue of it being hard to wipe your ass when you’re fat.

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MetalGearMk4 13 points ago +13 / -0

I don't know who he is but I could already tell he was a pedo just by looking at him

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Galean 4 points ago +4 / -0

Do not underestimate the guy. He has a good following and he can be persuasive. He has, unfortunately, managed to make Chris Raygun a centrist, maybe even left of center, no longer the anti-woke he was.

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M1919A2 4 points ago +4 / -0

I thought it was pretty clear when he dated laci green of all people…

Did he take down his punch a nazi video?

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Hyponoeo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, exactly what I was about to post. I keep hearing his name on this but haven't really looked to see who he is.... but yep immediately agree regardless of any other evidence they could ever provide :P

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AboriginalIvory 9 points ago +9 / -0

He claimed he was Polish..

He is no Polak.

He deserves a Thumb in Eye treatment.

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yamez 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jestem bardziej Polski niż on kiedykolwiek będzie i nie urodzilem się w Polsce, moje rodzine nie są polakami.

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Minarchist_Manlet 5 points ago +5 / -0

We know. :)

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LauriThorne 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, no shit.

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spez__ 5 points ago +5 / -0

"Legal argument."

How is, "it's illegal," not a legal argument?

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Unknownsailor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Any time Vaush comes up, link the "Is Vaush unironically evil" video.

The man is a walking, talking turd, and no one should take him seriously.

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AbleistSL 1 point ago +1 / -0

His arguments are a false equivalence between supply chain corruption and how CP requires child sex abuse in it's creation.