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JeanGrey 17 points ago +17 / -0

Actually all the vegetarian "men" I know are total soy boys. Not to be mean but MEN need BEEF and MEAT to be masculine. I notice this as a woman. Vegetarian dudes are a total turn off. Yuck. Iove animals but we're at the top of the food chain as we should be. Sorry. Unless they eat pet animals like dogs. Dogs are NOT food, but I'll never give up beef and I'm as straight as an arrow. Actually a lot of this "identity" shit seemed to start when the soy based plant diet became popular. It turns men into chicks and chicks into dudes. It's not natural or healthy.

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Hullohoomans 8 points ago +8 / -0

Sad fact: cows have personalities a lot like dogs. Unfortunately for them, they're also delicious.

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JeremiahKassin 7 points ago +7 / -0

Mmmm... personalities!

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LonelyPepe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ribeye is the best part of the personality IMO :D (Though I do like it all)

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MrVegan [S] -4 points ago +3 / -7

Humans are omnivores. I know a few dozen vegan body builders. I know a few soy men, however they have high testosterone and bang through the unlimited garden of vegan women. You’d be shocked.

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JeanGrey 10 points ago +10 / -0

Lmao tons of body builders are gay. I'd rather have a man that could take care of me in the wild, shoot me a deer, clean me a fish etc. Luckily I have a man that does all that. It seems like real men with manly skills are sadly very, very rare now. Sorry not trying to be mean but veganism is a city boy thing. Will NEVER be for me lol. And I grew up a city girl So many whiney vegans around me that it turned me off for good. As soon as a guy tells me he's vegan I get immediately turned off lol.

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MrVegan [S] -5 points ago +2 / -7

If you want to survive in the wild you need an edible plant expert. Look up rabbit starvation

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JeanGrey 9 points ago +9 / -0

Somehow I think you have no experience being self sufficient in the wild. Sorry. But anyone who thinks we can live off plants only, especially in freezing climates, is naive. Sure you might survive, but will most likely look frail, not have as much energy etc etc. You need protein and beans don't always cut it. Every Vegan I know is also extremely obnoxious They think they are superior in some way because they eat unsatisfying garbage that you feed to horses. Sorry I love my dog and he needs meat. I'm not going to eat shittier food than My Dog though.

Oh and anyone who tries to force this shit on their carnivorous pets needs to be shot. Veganism is Marxist propaganda. Another way to make men WEAK And if you're worried about all the hormones in processed meat, then you can fish and shoot your own food. That's REAL independence.

And unless you grow your own crops, veggies from the store are not healthy either. With all thechemicals and pesticides. And imagine all the cute bunnies they have to kill to harvest the vegan food because rabbits are pests in gardens.

Veganism is torture and most of the food is disgusting You're not helping the planet or yourself. Its just a way to virtue signal. Becuase most vegans are virtue signaling miserable assholes. Because if they were happy with their diet they wouldn't Care what others eat. That is all.

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MrVegan [S] -5 points ago +1 / -6

I eat all the same food you do minus 5 things.

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JeanGrey 6 points ago +6 / -0

No offense but most Vegans I know never leave the damn city. They know NOTHING about the natural world and look extremely unhealthy. I'm not living on lettuce. We are NOT rabbits. We eat veggies but meat is brain food. I notice most vegans tend to be slow liberals. They aren't very sharp Yet they wanna lecture everyone else on how wonderful tofu is. No thanks.

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MrVegan [S] -7 points ago +2 / -9

Look up rabbit starvation. I know plenty of vegan farmers… how else do we get our food?

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JeanGrey 4 points ago +4 / -0

Also native Americans lived off meat. Especially in winter. They were not just "plant eaters." You do you, but stop pretending like its natural for a human to be vegan. It isn't.

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MrVegan [S] -6 points ago +1 / -7

Try again! Look at how Lewis and Clark survived. And search “rabbit starvation”

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LonelyPepe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Explorers back in those times actually learned of and used a good nutrient dense food from the Native Americans: pemmican. Not only did it pack a ton of nutritious meat in a small package but will keep good in ambient temperatures for quite some time. Keep eating your plants, I'll continue eating meat and thriving.

As to your "rabbit starvation" comment - LOL! Ruminant meat contains all the necessary nutrients the body needs, plants will actually prevent proper absorption of vital nutrients. Look into the Inuit, Arctic explorer from the early 1900s (Vilhjalmur Stefansson) wrote a book on eating just meat based on his and his teams experience doing it as well as his observations on the Inuit in "The Fat of the Land".

The Paleomedicina clinic in Hungary has also been doing some amazing work helping people with various ailments recover via a heavy meat or meat only eating protocol. A lot of studies like this unfortunately has been blocked by the "scientific" community at large for many years (sound familiar? HCQ/Ivermectin for COVID?).

On that note, I need a nice juicy ribeye!

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MrVegan [S] -2 points ago +1 / -3

Stefansson Was a fraud. Killed so many people. His own half Inuit son died of heart disease in his 40’s, which was clearly better than the men he left to die frozen on a failed expedition

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Frog_Anne 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lewis and Clark survived primarily by hunting. For animals - deer, elk, bison. Rabbit starvation is caused by the very low amount of fat in rabbits. That's why it's called "rabbit starvation" and not "beef starvation." Good grief.

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MrVegan [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://www.pbs.org/food/the-history-kitchen/what-lewis-and-clark-ate/ the human body doesn’t store excess protein.

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JeanGrey 3 points ago +3 / -0

This idiot went into Alaska and tried to survive on plants and died. Try doing this in a place like Alaska.

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MrVegan [S] -4 points ago +1 / -5

Natives eat Chyme the partially digested grasses in a ruminants gut.

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Carlton-Whitfield 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah yeah yeah. Same fucking bullshit over and over again. Yet another variation on "REAL men do _____ <--- insert completely cucked faggoty feminine gay ass thing here.

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MrVegan [S] -4 points ago +2 / -6

Humans are omnivores with the vast majority eating a starch based diet. The prevalence of affluent diet patterns are impacting fetal development in a bad way.

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MustafaJones 8 points ago +8 / -0

Considering the fact that homosexuals make up around 10% of the population and the fact that the vast majority of people on earth do not subscribe to a vegetarian diet, I find the premise that meat makes people gay highly dubious.

If anything that first study is into how having more siblings or brothers affects the likelihood of having a gay one, not into how animal meat affects that probability.

Also certain proteins making mice autistic does not in any way translate into humans.

Humans have been eating animal meat products for tens of thousands of years. It’s demonstrably fine. If anything it’s plant based diets that have extremely questionable effects on human health.

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AboriginalIvory 9 points ago +9 / -0

10% LOL

No. 2.25%

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JeremiahKassin 7 points ago +7 / -0

That 10% figure was proposed based on studies conducted in prisons, and included anyone who ever had an even vaguely homosexual encounter--consensual or otherwise.

In other words, complete hogwash.

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Cuzyoudbeinjail 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was coming to say something very similar. Humans have been eating meat for centuries and it just now that it's turning the kids gay? It's more than likely the additives and preservatives doing it. Eating clean non gmo food would be better than the processed BS that passes for food nowadays.

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MrVegan [S] -6 points ago +2 / -8

Majority of Humans have been eating a low amount of meat for 10k+ years. I’m the past 50 that has ballooned, while the number of children per couple has declined

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MustafaJones 6 points ago +6 / -0

Look if you want to pursue a vegan diet, go right ahead. You don’t have to give a reason for your choice so stop trying to gerrymander and twist facts to justify your decision. The low birth rate in western nations is linked almost 100% to sociological and economic reasons, NOT dietary. Humans have been eating a crap ton of meat for thousands of years. Ancient humans hunted bison and other bovine creatures by the dozen by herding them off cliffs. You don’t kill an entire herd of bison and eat only low amounts of meat. Also lots of places in Europe and North America completely snow over in winter periods, so what plants would they be eating then?

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MrVegan [S] -5 points ago +1 / -6

Humans have been in NA for 10k years. Corn was the staple diet, the natives have the Three Sisters. Why did settlers die of mass starvation? They had guns.

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AboriginalIvory 3 points ago +3 / -0

LOL.

Talk about uninformed idiotic comment.

Settlers died because they moved to an area which wasn't developed for the type of skills and tools they had. Did you know that natives died in droves when they were relocated from Plains to Floridian reservations?

Actually no most did not have guns.

NA never developed agriculture they were mostly nomadic unless you are including Central or South American natives.

Oh and Natives died of disease in droves as well.

This thread should be renamed How to be uneducated vapid asshole, be a Vegan.

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MrVegan [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Having your personal beliefs challenged is hard. I don’t advocate veganism for anyone. Humans are omnivores. Native American archeology isn’t your strong suit. Come check out Chahokia Mounds outside St Louis. Plenty of endless sites across the country, but this one is great!

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AboriginalIvory 3 points ago +3 / -0

Blah blah. Ignore facts.

Plains Indians Inuit/Esikimo Coast Salish Iriqois Danae

Yeah you know shit about North American Natives.

They were largly meat eaters. To make claims such as your own Gay = Meat eaters.. Is arrogant and factually incorrect.

Go eat your soy mr vegan.

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AboriginalIvory 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh RLY.. So your telling me that North American Natives were all Homos? They ate tonne of meat.

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Bjorn_the_Black 4 points ago +4 / -0

》MrVegan

Show us your noodle legs, vegboi

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MrVegan [S] -3 points ago +2 / -5

You can google me. Cycled up tall mountains. Hot wife. Handsome kids. I build houses and my muscles are for what they need to work dawn to dusk. Installing baseboard today… glad I don’t have an extra 50 pounds of beef on me running up and down stairs all day

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Bjorn_the_Black 1 point ago +1 / -0

...you post on forums using the same name elsewhere, essentially doxxing yourself?

Not smart.

I don't care if you're vegan but this "I am vegan, consoom my propaganda so you can be like me!" shit is nonsense lol

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shadeLM 2 points ago +2 / -0

I use the same username everywhere in hopes someone eventually adds me on PSN and I have a buddy to play games with 🥺

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Bjorn_the_Black 2 points ago +2 / -0

Go to /gaming and ask!

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MrVegan [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

I’m an open asshole. I got booted everywhere else. Freedom or death

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shadeLM 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unhealthy gut bacteria has been linked to Autism for quite some time, which is also a sign of parasites. If the parasites are metal like aluminum, they make their way to the brain, which explains why everyone's so fucking retarded.

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Hullohoomans 5 points ago +5 / -0

Aluminum parasites? Wtf are you talking about?

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shadeLM 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Mercury toxicity also produces a very acidic environment which is harmful to good gut flora; however, parasites and lyme love and flourish in this acidity" metals like mercury and aluminum as well as glyphosate are shown to bind to parasites and like I said previously, metal really prefers to store in the brain. That's what I'm talking about.

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MustafaJones 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s not how that works. Heavy metals like mercury bond to nerve cells at an ionic and molecular level so very easy to access the brain. Parasites mostly give in the gut and have a very difficult time getting into the brain. The size difference between the metal molecules that end up in the brain and parasites living in the gut is like the difference between an ant and a dump truck.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

"that's not how that works" yet that's literally exactly how parasites work. Here's a list of parasites that can wind up in the brain if left untreated https://www.verywellhealth.com/parasitic-infections-of-the-central-nervous-system-2488670 I didn't even scroll through this entire list because I've done my research, but if it didn't list it, tapeworms, which obviously grow in the stomach and can be incredibly large, can target the brain. I'm sorry you can't think past "giant worm brain small" but it really do be like that.

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christianknight 1 point ago +1 / -0

Parasites are living, metals are not living.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

I figured it was obvious parasites contain metal when that's what they consume.. didn't know I had to point that out.

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MustafaJones 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m an aware that certain parasites can infect the brain. What I was trying to say is that the vector for heavy metal poisoning by substances like mercury is entirely different and not correlative to how parasites enter the brain. Parasites infect the organ. Heavy metals accrue in the cells.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well if heavy metals are in the cells in the brain, would the parisites not make their way to said brain to eat the metal that's stored there? I feel like that went without explanation, and it seems you already knew that, so I don't understand the argument here when we're in agreement. My point is all bacterial infections are actually a parasitic infection and are treated with a dose of antibiotics (antiparasitic) which don't treat the root issue, parasites. So the different parasites we have from multiple inoculations and environmental toxins make their way to the brain, which I didn't know I needed to explain because I thought it was a no brainer that's where metal is stored, and that's what parasites eat, which are what all infections are at the root of the problem. Hyper immune response to parasitic infection. Your yearly flu, pneumonia, whatever you get is your body's way of saying hey, we need to get these out this shit is gross and instead of starving them of sugar and metal and getting rid of the parasites, we just go to the doctor and get treated with metal and McDonald's on the way home and literally dose the parasites until they eventually kill us in different forms of cancers, degenerative diseases, sudden cardiac arrests, whatever pandemic is going on, current bird flu, food poisoning, etc. All parasites.

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MustafaJones 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, how does a parasite know to go the brain? Parasites in people's brains get there in the form of eggs that are small enough to be washed in there in the blood supply. The parasite does not CHOOSE to go there of its own volition in some expedition to seek "metals".

Also if all bacterial infections are parasitic (which is not the generally accepted defintion of "parasite") and treatment is by antibiotics how is that not treating the root issue. Antibiotics aid the human immune system by kiling the bacterium, so how is that not killing the root cause? What exactly do you think antibiotics do?

Your understanding of how the human immune system functions is extremely sketchy here. The immune response is primarily a mixure of immune cells breaking down the cells of invaders and using fevers to try and kill invaders by overheating them. "Metals" and sugar are not involved in this process.

Finally, your premise that "metals" and McDonald's is somehow the cause of all those ailments is frankly kinda scary and is begining to sound like the crazy general from the Dr Strangelove movie.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's in the literature if you actually read it, and it's very eye opening. I hope you look into your health because it really does come down to you are what you eat and if you eat shit that comes from a lab chances are you're a lab rat

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

And yes parasites really do eat metal. If you want me to do the research for you again I can, just let me know if you need help. I'm not even trying to be a dick but like that was the dumbest shit I ever heard. Parasites don't make it to the brain yet we have shit like lyme disease. Your parasites are showing lmao

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MustafaJones 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lots of organisms can eat metallic substances thats irrelevant and not the argument, however you stated that "if parasites are metal like aluminium they make their way to the brain". I'm saying that is highly dubious a premise. If a parasite is happily living in the gut how in the hell does it know heavy metals are building up in the brain? Parasites are simple organisms, they dont just move around seeking out metalic deposits like a mining company. Parasites that move into the brain are often deposited there by the body. Also speaking of research, perhaps you should look into the fact the lyme disease is a bacterial infection ot a parasitic one.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

You read literally nothing I said and countered yourself by saying "if a parasite is happy in the gut why move to the brain" and then say "parasites that move into the brain are deposited there by the body". Do they stay in the gut, do they not? Science says they don't. Science says they go to the brain. Science also says Lyme disease is a bacterial infection, and all bacterial infections are parasites, so you basically proved my point that Lyme disease causes parasites to attack the brain. Thank you for your time but this is the dumbest argument I've ever had lmao.

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MustafaJones 1 point ago +1 / -0

How is that countering myself? My argument is that your premise of "metal concentrations in the brain attract parasites into the brain" is incorrect and frankly absurd. I argued that parasites don't "choose" to go to the brain and are only usually deposited there by accident. Perhaps i was not sufficiently clear on this. Also saying that all bacterial infections are technically "parasitic" is just disingenuous, know that what we are talking about here is the more commonly accepted types of "parasite" like ringwords etc.

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shadeLM 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey look up every pharmaceutical you can think of, then look up the natural equivalent, and then cross reference to see if the natural equivalent is an antiparasitic. That's research. You can do it a million times, all pharmaceuticals are synthetic antiparasities. I've provided so much research you're just not listening, and it's not my job to educate you. Also fun fact, every illegal drug we have are the most potent antiparasitics known to man, which is why they're illegal. I literally do not have to give you more information than the history of germ theory, which you obviously do not know, because you would know germ theory was "proven" by treating hook worms by removing the parasite and providing an antiparasitic. You obviously do not know shit and do not do your own research at all. Your belief system is disproven with research that you won't do on your own. And btw, I typed in is hepatitis a parasite you fucking idiot. You should try actually researching, it's not hard. It's really not. Germ theory was pioneered by the Rockefellers, fact. Germ theory was proven by removing hookworms and treating parasites, fact. Those are facts. You can not argue those. You're arguing my facts with a belief system. YOU are insane. I have provided plenty of evidence, you've defended with your beliefs. You look like the idiot here. There's a million different studies that show plants kill bacteria, because they are parasites. There's a million, I don't have to cite all of them for you because they're there at your disposal. You're CHOOSING to be ignorant to defend a belief system. It really just takes you LOOKING and you won't lol you won't even look at where your germ theory originated! It originated from PARASITES. Jesus fucking Christ. Anyone can verify literally anything I said by just LOOKING IT UP and you OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT. You have not researched anything I've stated, everything I've stated is backed with SCIENCE. Your belief system of GERMS is not backed by SCIENCE. It is backed by BELIEF. There is no point in arguing with you, you are someone who dismissed new evidence based on your RELIGION. Absolutely insane. You can verify literally everything I said but you are choosing not to. Just you. Anyone else can hop in here and do the same. That's science. No one can verify ANYTHING you've said. Not even the scientist, or we would have germ law. Not my fault you're choosing to be ignorant to your surroundings. I'm done here, idk why you're responding.

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MustafaJones 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think you know what providing evidence is. Saying "i stating FACT" is not evidence. You've done no legitimate research what so ever. You look for single paragraphs taken out of context to try and justifiy your ideas. That's not research that the opposite of research. Don't lie about the hep "research" you did, you copied and pasted a line from wikipedia word for word. I literally checked because I suspected you did something like that. You got caught, man up and just admit it.

You claim i'm not being scientific by suscribing to germ theory, yet you're the one claiming to hvae the objective truth. Objective truth doesnt exist in science. Thats the whole point of science. Every "fact" of yours about the dangers of modern medicine causing illness can be simply refuted by the reality that modern humans are living longer, getting sick less, and recovering from illness at an astronomically better rate than before the invention of innoculations and antibiotics. 600 years ago people died in their hundreds of thousands from bubonic plague, now a couple of penicillin shots will get you back on your feet in a day or two. You can cite all the research in the world, but your theories dont align with reality.

You're just like a waling encyclopedia of all the most cliched conspiracies. You've gone from veganism, to mercury, to radiation, and now to "illegal drugs are good for you". Yeah those heroin addicts is see stumbling around my city as SOOO healthy. All those addicts that all have Hep C or other diseases from sharing needles. So healthy right? How about those Krokodil users over in Russia with their limbs rotting off, thats healthy right? I mean they're taking illegal drugs that were banned the government so they must be like super-soldiers by now right? What a fucking joke of an arguement. And you wonder why i think you're trolling? To quote Biden: "C'mon man!"

Also i respond to you because i find i find it funny. It nice to finally talk to one those raving, tinfoil hats you see people ridiculing all the time. I find your insanity amusing. Thats why.

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shadeLM 2 points ago +2 / -0

And obviously when your brain is full of metal and you're exposed to non stop gay/trans propaganda it's gonna be hard to form your own thoughts and identity.

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MrVegan [S] -1 points ago +2 / -3

Guy bacteria are impacted by the gut “soil”. You grow what you sow. You want bacteria that eat you or plants?

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shadeLM 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sorry I hijacked your post arguing with an npc. At the end of the day in a fucked up way your post is accurate. Insensitive, but accurate. I'm done arguing on this post, thank you for sharing!

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Be4Redemption 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wtf is this comment section.

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MrVegan [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Be thankful we can even have this discussion. I’d have been hung bring it up anywhere else

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LonelyPepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah, Reddit is fully on board with vegan/omnivore tripe - they'd love this. Mention carnivore outside of the couple of dedicated subreddits and it'd be downvoted to oblivion.

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MrVegan [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Both are eating/mental disorders.