Q told us in Post 1957 to focus on WW1 and WW2 History books. Well, I got myself a 1949 Webster's Complete Reference Dictionary and Encyclopedia. Old and brittle, but still legible. Here's the WW2 section. Anyone want a history lesson? Guess what word is never mentioned... (media.greatawakening.win)
posted ago by sleepydude ago by sleepydude +150 / -0
Just look at the 1960's TV comedy "Hogan's Heros."
They would not be joking about German prison camps, shortly after the war, if the Holohoax was real. Nobody had ever heard of such a thing, and no pro-jew organizations were protesting the show, which is why they were able to do it.
It did not become "a thing" until the 1970's when the propaganda machine really ramped up.
Then, you had the 1980's, when Ernst Zundel proved in court that there could not have been any gas chambers.
Then, you had the 1990's, when jew David Stein actually went to Auschwitz and showed what a fraud the story was. Of course, this was shortly after the Berlin Wall fell, and the people who were managing that camp had not yet realized how they would have to cover their fake story, so they just let a random kid come in and do a documentary, which revealed all.
Since then, it has been nothing but lies to keep promoting the BIG LIE.
There were a few hundred thousand MORE jews in the world census, per the World Almanac, AFTER the war than before. Ergo, 6 gorillion could NOT have died during those years. Plus, there were not 6 gorillion jews in German-occupied territory to begin with. Only 500,000 jews in Germany when Hitler took over, and probably less than 300,000 when the war started. About 3 million were in Poland, but the USSR controlled half of Poland. So, where did they all come from?
Answer: Nowhere, because the story has always been a lie.
Others have shown that encyclopedias as late as the early 1960's also had no mention of the Holohoax, because it had not yet been invented.
Rabbi Abraham Finklestein also dances around the 6 million when questioned about it in his interview
I have a copy of the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich printed in 1960. It talks a lot about the "Final Solution." The index doesn't have the specific word "Holocaust," but there are lots and lots of references in it to what happened.
Did not know about Dave (Cole) Stein, found some of his stuff on bitchute, thank you fren!
I don't have the time or patience to go into this in detail, so I will simply explain why I think you don't know what you are talking about.
Re "Hogan's Heroes," the reason this was not off-limits and NOT an offense to Jews is that it pertained to Prisoner-Of-War camps run by the German Army---NOT Jewish extermination centers run by the SS. You cannot understand the difference between the two kinds of detention facilities.
As for when people knew about Jewish deaths, it was as early as 1942 by a report from the Polish government-in-exile to the government of Great Britain. The information was held during the war to prevent the war from becoming a cause celebre that might irritate anti-semitic allies. Afterward, it was the outcome of the war crimes trials. I learned about it when I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s. It was established history by the 1970s.
The Jews were killed by a multitude of ways: gas chambers, labor camps, death marches, being shot en masse, etc. Facilities and methods were usually meticulously documented by the Germans (a national trait). You show disdain for the 6 million estimate of deaths, but seem not to be aware that this is taken from Adolf Eichmann in a comment he made to an underling. It was not a Jewish invention. Serious research seems to indicate it was at least between 5 and 6 million.
There is too much evidence, too many bodies, and too much testimony to deny this horrendous crime. There were plenty of Jews in conquered Russia that you do not count. For those who think the number is "too large," I would point out that the annual number of abortions in the U.S. is about 600,000, with no particular sense of urgency or a policy forcing it on anyone. That would be 6 million in 10 years. The German program was about 3 years with significant resources in men, materiel, and methods. In roughly that period, the Nazi reich inflicted about 11 million deaths on Russian armed forces alone. So don't tell me it couldn't be done. World War II was a bloodbath.
The bodies simply aren't there, though. Many, many non Jews were killed and subsumed into the big number, but physically, by the constructions they had and documented, they could not have killed and buried or incinerated the numbers being claimed. And poison gas chambers simply don't work with leaky wooden doors right next to hospitals and barracks. Would be a fatally bad design, right?
Gas chambers were not the only causes of death. If you think that way, you don't grasp the reality of the situation. Toward the end, the SS attempted to destroy the evidence by pulling down buildings and demolishing gas chambers. Mass graves were dug up and burned.
Tell you what: you go back to the evidence presented at the Nuremberg Trials and death camp trials and come up with the right numbers. And debunk all the other research while you are at it. The bodies were there---in profusion. Altogether in World War II, 61million were killed. Where are the bodies? We don't ask such stupid questions.
Other historians claim the reason there is zero documentation by the germans of the holocaust is because they destroyed everything when they began losing the war. I recently watched a jewish documentary where they made this claim.
The reply above yours by the boomer is exactly what I would expect.
Comes here to lecture us on “established history” while failing to connect the dots of history being written by the victors.
Yes, you need a lecture because you are ignorant. Like that nonsense about "Hogan's Heroes." Or that nobody was aware of the Holocaust before 1970. You don't lead with howlers and expect to be taken seriously.
The only "dots" you are "connecting" are imaginary. Which is why people like you are called "dotty."
Please regurgitate more “facts” pumped through your 1950’s cathode ray tube TV absorbed by you while 10 years old.
I see you have nothing of substance to reply. I don't believe we had a TV in the 1950s. Tough luck for you.
That’s fairly obvious when you throw your self out of the gate calling people ignorant. Btw I don’t give two fat shits about hogans heroes.
Tough luck to you for not seeing beyond the veil. The most obvious crime in human history needs laws to make sure people don’t call it a lie. Backed by the same groups calling for America to be open borders while hiding behind their own closed borders.
That explains the discovery of the receipts for purchase of the large quantities of Zyklon B, right? How about the library of skills set aside by the SS? It was a mixed bag. It would have been rational clean-up to eliminate evidence, but not everything was eliminated.
Zyklon B was bought for delousing. But it’s not me saying all evidence was destroyed, it’s jewish scholars.
Here’s one: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000fjqk
It produces hydrogen cyanide upon reaction with water, which is equally lethal against human beings. It was used to kill 1.1 million Jews in the death camps. One of its creators, Bruno Tesch, was executed in 1946 for knowingly selling the compound to the SS for use on humans.
And do you have any reason to think the Jewish scholars are wrong?
I think it would be weird that every documentary I have seen that debunks holocaust revisionists claim that no evidence exists because the germans destroyed them, even digging up the bodies and turning them to dust, if there actually existed evidence.
I think it’s up to you to link to these documents if they exist. I really can’t help you here.
You are the one who wants to disprove, so you get to do the work. I would suggest starting with the records of the Nuremberg Trials. Prove Wikipedia wrong; they have comprehensive articles and source citations. (I am wary of Wikipedia, but they are often on firm ground.)}
It's funny. You claim to be in possession of the truth, and you don't have a written corpus to prove it? Just anti-Semitic screeds and videos? Even the Nazis seemed to think they killed 6 million Jews.
There was no holocaust
Hitler was allowing & encouraging the Jewish people to immigrate to Palestine. It was ethnic Germans who had lived for years in Poland that were tortured and killed by the polish people.
Greatest Story Never Told
look it up, change [their] indoctrination
Page 786 tells of the cruelty of the Nazis toward the Jews. I don't know what one word is never mentioned but it is not Jews.
Thanks, skipped that one.
European holocaust is mentioned, but not the Holocaust.
How come no WWII vets have come forward supporting this?
Plenty have. Nice try.
Because they saw the corpses and have no interest in lying about such crimes.
We work off facts here, not assumptions. You are working over drive here.
Since it is a FACT that vets saw the corpses (and they were photographed), I wonder why you deny it. This whole attempt to exculpate the Nazis is an anti-factual supposition right up there with Flat Earth and Moon Hoax. I worked for 50 years with science as my warden. I know a fact from a fiction. You guys don't even know "Hogan's Heroes."
You’re misrepresenting my comment through a distorted interpretation.
Since it was a war, of course there were dead bodies as well as POW camps, but many liberators walked into those camps 2 years into the allies blockade. There were numerous causes of casualties most notably starvation. Everyone not of the Natzi party was targeted - not just Jews, and certainly not 3 million. Logistics for extermination camps of that magnitude don’t even work in the timeframe nor fuel resources needed or available.
Are you talking about POW camps? The issue was genocide of Jews. Most of the death camps were in Poland, which were in the Soviet zone of control. U.S. forces certainly liberated a few, and the troops saw for themselves. In fact, the commanding officer compelled the Germans from the neighboring village to come and see what had been taking place.
Explain why Adolf Eichman was willing to state a 6 million figure to a subordinate. And why there is an accounting of how many died at which facility or mode of execution (some are estimated). You are just repeating some crank fantasy. Prove it can't be done. It was an industrial process, and not all the killed were in death camps. We will likely never have a proper accounting for all the Jews killed on Russian land.
Great post, thanks!
Just remembered that back in the 90s a friend told me history and reference books were being rewritten by the Jesuits. Even 1984 has been altered.
I remember watching a movie about "conspiracy theories", and one thing they said really stood out. ALL of the history, science, and math text books are wrong.....on purpose.
Do you remember what movie it was? Sounds like something I would like. 😬
Here is a true one for you when it comes to Electrical engineering and manipulation of equations. There are the 4 mains laws we know 1 Ohm's Law 2 Kirchoff's Current Law(KCL) 3 Kirchoff's Voltage Law(KVL)4 Faraday's Law of Electromagnetic Induction
however, there are many more equations (20 total) but are not used or studied as they permit valid theory for zero point energy, and harvesting energy from the ionsphere like Tesla was doing with resonance. Of course Teslas notebooks and equations went missing and are being used against us. The textbook publishers were buddies with Edison and made sure to supress real alternative energy from the toroid of the universe.
My goodness! No Maxwell's Equations? Where in hell did I learn about those? Oh, I remember. It was EE 101, along with a bunch of other equations. How about Alfven's magnetohydrodynamic equations? Oops, I studied them, too.
Sorry, pal. It makes for a great contention, but you have no creds now for being there and doing that. Easy to claim that wonderful knowledge was lost in Tesla's notebooks. Kind of like the Library of Alexandria.
And the "toroid" of the universe? Sounds like a perversion of nature.
Above Majestic. Covers a lot of stuff. Some to shake your head at, but some of it is eye opening. Actually jump started my journey down the rabbit hole.
And you trust movies...about conspiracy theories? No, not all the history books are wrong, and I've never come in contact with a science or math text that is wrong.
What.changes were made yo '1984' I have several printings dating back ro the early 70's, but haven't noticed the discrepancy between any editions...
I read about it a while back; can't remember the details but its lost its hard hitting impact, very watered down apparently. Get an old and new edition and compare.
What about the reference to WW1?
The book didn't have a section just for WW1, sorry. It has a complete timeline from the start of recorded history to 1949 though. It's a lot more pages than the WW2 section, so I'm not exactly in a position to post that hot mess right now. Maybe if I get a better camera/lighting setup. I just snapped this on my floor with an iPhone camera.
There was the Christmas Truce of 1914, where the soldiers quit fighting in WWI to exchange gifts and play a game of soccer.
I seem to remember footage of World War I where they even had helium balloons for a party where the opposing sides got together in similar fashion, but no luck finding it.
Here is a much better version. Kek.
Christmas 1914 | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim
It's 6 million. It's always been 6 million. Since 1915 it's been 6 million, especially if you read about it in the New York Times.
I've watched this clip showing newspaper articles that push the 6 million narrative, slowly turning the 6m figure of "exiled" to "killed". Had a hard time finding the clip again. Thanks fren!
I love this guys accent
"There I go..."
It began with 6 million Jews in Ukraine, you know.
https://youtu.be/BixZwKpfcD0 go to 6:09
Before the war, it was 6 million Jews in danger. After the war, 6 million Jews died.
Obsessing about "the number" is part of a CIA psyop red herring pushed on /pol/ and now on alt media sites. Obviously, an inaccurate number =/= didnt happen
Tell me. Because I got through like 2.5 pages and it's a brutally small read on my phone kek
Why would Q devote so much time in bringing up projects involving Nazi's? Specifically Operation Mockingbird, Operation Paperclip, Operation MKUltra, the smuggling of Nazi's into America via the Church & Red Cross, directly hint at Angela MERCKel's pedigree with that of Hitler, IF
Nazi's weren't "as bad as they say"?
If you want Q drops that specifically highlight any of the above, I'd be happy to dig them out for you.
I'd go so far as to say Q leaves the paper trail of how Nazi's are still alive and well today. That MK Ultra, which spoiler alert, the MK stands for 'Mein Kampf', is alive and well today. I have zero trouble believing atrocities at the level of the holocaust could be perpetuated by Clowns.
Q was stating the Nazis lost the battle but won the war. The CIA brought many Gestapo into the CIA because they knew so much on Russia. The CIA incorporated the Nazi propaganda used against the Germans and started using it against the US citizens. We won the battles and lost the nation!
Buy old books! I have lots and lots!
My favs are medical, great laughs sometimes but other sections I believe are hidden gems
My grandma loved cookbooks. When she passed, I thought it would be fun to go through them and make dishes from the 50s and 60s. I couldn't find anything that was appealing. It was all so, blah...
🤣🤣🤣 yeah, got an older here too 🤮
I bought it at a local thrift store.
The signature of the original owner (when he/she bought it?) is actually on the first page, I cut it off so no one can track it, but left the date intact.
Im noticing local theft shops are getting some great finds as more elderly pass away
Lol apologies yes. Its not even a word we use here, we say op shops
My MIL calls it 'the good as new' shop. She competes with this one guy over the new stuff that comes in.
My aunt and uncle check out estate sales to buy wine glasses - nice ones, like Waterford. He told my mom that it is a shame because people spent a lot of money on very nice stuff. Part of it is few people entertain at home outside the holidays. But you have a lot of people who have been brought up in a society that treats everything as disposable. They would rather buy cheap crap at Target.
Thx sleepydude enjoy your contributions as always
The Germans were subject to a brutal firestorm at the hand of the Allies. I imagine that holocaust killed more people than the 6 million Jews believed to be killed by the Germans.
Six million was what Adolf Eichmann believed were killed by the SS, as testified by the person he told it to.
Either it is forced testimony or he included all the war dead killed by Germany. There is no real evidence that 6 million Jews were killed in concentration camps.
You don't know a thing, do you? That was him speaking to a subordinate during his tenure in Germany. It was only the Jews. (The Russian war dead is over 20 million.) It is backed up by independent research. There is plenty of evidence, down to a separate accounting of how many and where.
Ok, so I’m just randomly thinking, and this is probably nothing, but do y’all think the fact that this post is 1957 has any significance or meaning as to what novels, history books, etc., were published in that year? 🤷🏼♀️
I'll take "What is a Burnt sacrifice? " for $6 million, Alex.
I just bought an OLD set of , 1890. Haven't had a chance to ready yet. Should be interesting.
If those do have any references to WW1, WW2, or the Holocaust, they may have been written by Rasputin ....
I do not know anything about this topic, but I did read a book from 1957 called "The Scourge of the Swastika". On page 208, it does specifically site the 6MM number:
I will investigate more.
What word? Jew? Page 786 under the religious part tells of the cruelty and murder of the Jews.
I can sympathize with being a skeptic when it comes to the numbers. I can understand if it was "only" 500,000... what I can't accept is that not ONE WWII vet ever came forward claiming it was fake. Now, if you want to present evidence to the contrary, I will consider it, but as best I can tell, the soldiers who liberated camps saw shit firsthand and not one of them had any conflicting reports. The camps existed, there was a fuck ton of murder. Those facts have been consistent since the war ended.
Has the Nazi bad narrative been beat to a pulp? Yes. Are a lot of atrocities surrounding the Nazi's exaggerated for sympathy points? Absolutely. But this continued notion that it didn't happen and was a confirmed hoax is part of what makes GAW look fucking retarded and rightly so. If you wanna be reasonably skeptical, fine. But show proof of the fabrication. HARD proof that confirms the museums are bunk.
Show proof of any order from Hitler, Himmler or any other high ranking official to anyone to execute Jews in mass. There were multiple concentration camps. We have thousands of Nazi documents. Where is a shred of evidence of this plan of extermination. Where are the autopsies proving death by zyklon B? Where is the proof of this six million number? We're there 6 million Jews to start with in German occupied territories?
The cherry on top of all the lack of evidence are the laws and outrage towards anyone who dares to say anything against the official narrative. Revisionists don't praise Nazis or deny their evil, they only look for what really happened.
The camps were not only holding Jews. The numbers are physically impossible. The delousing chambers could not have worked as poison chambers, their original leaky wooden doors are still on them and they're literally next to hospitals and barracks. Mass graves to account for the amount of dead claimed have never been found. The Jews' own contemporary records do not reflect the numbers they now claim.
No one says nobody was treated badly or killed; the German records show exactly what they were doing. They're known for precision, after all. The records don't show anything like what is now claimed. Even the lies told at the time about monstrous Germans in the official propaganda never claimed a holocaust of Jews.
By the way, Anne Frank's diary was proven in a German court to have been false, written by her uncle for money.
The Germans themselves were starving because all their supply chains were cut off. It's only logical they would feed their own over prisoners in the camps.
It also explains much of the footage I've watched, and also explains why the emaciated prisoners were burying their fellow prisoners who had died in mass graves and seemed like willing participants while doing so.
Key words: "prisoners" "in the camps".
Imprisoned " in the camps", why?
Did they pose a danger to the moustache mans dEmOcRaCy?
Notice who obsesses about dog whistles that those in the know hear and understand differently than normies do. When normies hear NWO they believe N==New. What do those who understand dog comms think N stands for?
Sum of All Fears, referenced by Q and Q+ many times. Why? Ukraine/CIA relevance?
It won't be found. The deaths happened. It was all gone over in detail at the Nuremberg Trials and death camp trials. The reality is that the servicemen who knew the truth are all going to their graves without denying it happened.
And yes, it not only makes GAW "look" retarded...it makes GAW itself retarded by its virulent anti-semitism and paranoia (which seems to be infectious). I know the moderators are on the lookout for fringe conspiracies (because they detract from a focus on, and the credibility of, Q posts) and---because they have their hands full---they urge that when purveyors of a fringe conspiracy fly their colors, they should be deported.