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TNBanjoMan 35 points ago +35 / -0

Sorry, but we're NEVER going to "end homelessness." It's not just a matter of money, there are many reasons people are homeless, and much of it has to do with unpredictable human behavior. Some people are willing to sink to the lowest level of existence as long as they can eat every once in awhile and find a place to sleep. I've met and known these people and they think differently from the way we do. Never forget, Jesus said that the poor will always be with us.

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EZMojo [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

Good points and I fully agree. If the government thinks it can at $20 billion though, it puts into perspective how much we’ve sent to Ukraine and shows naive liberals that their government has never cared about poor Americans.

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TNBanjoMan 9 points ago +9 / -0

Well they "cared"... but only because they were a good mascot for raising campaign money and as a "cause". ... whom they promptly forgot about after the elections.

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normalstreet 9 points ago +9 / -0

Even thinking of the problem domestically raises red flags. How much does the government spend on homelessness annually?

"The National Alliance to End Homelessness calculated that, in 2021, the U.S. federal government enacted over $51 billion in funding for selected homelessness and housing programs. This, of course, does not include city, county, or private dollars invested in homelessness and affordable housing as well."

Ref: https://my.neighbor.org/what-is-the-cost-of-homelessness/#:~:text=The%20National%20Alliance%20to%20End%20Homelessness%20calculated%20that%2C%20in%202021,selected%20homelessness%20and%20housing%20programs.

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PunaAnon 7 points ago +7 / -0

LA blew through $1 Billion dollars on “consulting fees”. The good people of LA voted for that specific tax to help the homeless and people like Mayor Garcetti’s rich friends get even richer!

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BeerMan 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is absolutely true.

A lot of people feel bad for the homeless because they believe the homeless are the same kind of people they are. But they're not like regular people. Homeless people are usually on drugs and have some kind of mental health problem, perhaps caused by drugs. Every so often a regular person gets down on their luck and ends up homeless, but they can usually pull themselves out of it so long as they stay away from drugs and stay focused on improving their condition.

We will always have the poor, because they are unable or unwilling to change.

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Passthatwrench 16 points ago +16 / -0

What could possibly be worth that much money in Ukraine?

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CommiesGetTheRope 18 points ago +18 / -0

Never ending cash into the pockets of congress.

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EZMojo [S] 11 points ago +12 / -1

And weapons manufacturers.

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justicein2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

well. before the war ukraine was a main source of stem cells.

and then there's their 'other' gain of function totally not biolabs that totally don't exist but if they did it would be fine.

then you have all the money itself. grifters money orgy!

there's a couple other reasons i suspect might be true too. but yeah can't say that

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throwawayforyou 5 points ago +5 / -0

moldova/ukraine one of the biggest sex trafficking hub

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BetterNameUnfound 2 points ago +2 / -0

Children.

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27745 13 points ago +13 / -0

Love that we still think just throwing money at something will solve a problem.....

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EZMojo [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah, it’s not that I support spending that money. I guess my hope is this can make its way into the liberal bubble to show some of them the left has never given a shit about the poor.

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27745 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes I totally gotcha for sure, I wish it were that simple, but as we see as the world is, we know better.

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EthelBarrett 8 points ago +8 / -0

But the homeless can't launder the money.

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EZMojo [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

If there was a way the big guy would have found it.

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COLNE68601 2 points ago +2 / -0

Joe Biden: "Hold my beer."

But seriously, there probably are homeless charities, foundations, etc. that kick money back to the swamp creatures. The creativity of criminals can be quite impressive.

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OffGridGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

But the people administering the program can by deciding what organizations are contracted with to provide housing, food, and other services.

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wasupwitdis 7 points ago +7 / -0

you will never end homelessness.....no such thing as a free lunch.......

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TNBanjoMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right. See my comment below.

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wasupwitdis 3 points ago +3 / -0

well said

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huntfishpede 1 point ago +1 / -0

But you can build sanatoriums and sweep people off the streets into these facilities and figure out the best course of rehabilitation/assistance for them from there. Not saying it is a good idea, but it is the only way you could "end" homelessness.

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NewExpertBread 6 points ago +6 / -0

I worked for a national charity for years as head of the important department.

90% of charity recipients were homeless.

It cost $580,000 over 10 years to set up a single person to not have to be homeless. That doesn't include grants, vehicles, housing vouchers, job searching, food, gas, counseling, other medical, court fees, etc.

The success rate was under <10% in the first year when I took over, I left behind far better numbers.

1 year: >95% success 2 years: >90% success 5 years: ~70% success 10 years: 50% success

There is no way to end homelessness, but it is possible to mitigate it.

With $20b I could help less than 3,500 people. Of that, only half would succeed.

I was very good at my work. I doubt the government could beat my numbers. All our money was private / corporate donor.

This is essentially a UBI soft request.

The thing is, without a fiduciary requirement for assistance (my biggest hang up with those above me) many people will blow it on drugs and bad decisions, ending up homeless again.

On a private level, this is fine. Ordering a fiduciary through the government I'm no fan of.

Never took a paycheck, all volunteer.

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superspathi 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are full of shit. When you subsidize something you get more of it. Buy housing for homeless street shitters get more homeless street shitters.

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Nfld709 3 points ago +3 / -0

The US has spent over $23 TRILLION on poverty reduction since demonrat crook LBJ declared "war on poverty" in 1965:

https://www.cato.org/commentary/whats-missing-war-poverty#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20since%20Lyndon%20Johnson,cost%20more%20than%20%2423%20trillion.

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bluewhiteandred 3 points ago +3 / -0

completely insane

america first

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retardo 2 points ago +2 / -0

20 billion per year? cause homelessness isn't one off solved. new bums appear every day.

how about homeless solve their own problems, and people with jobs keep the fruits of their labour.

anyways, that 20B number is obviously bullshit.

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Sadness 2 points ago +2 / -0

OF course Congress wants to send more. They feel like they are backing racehorces or betting on outcomes. Also the giant laundromat has been started up. Some of the big names will be raking the moola in. Also, most of that money is going to arms manufacturers, stateside.

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EZMojo [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Imagine thinking you are entitled to backing racehorses with someone else’s money. Is fixing Congress even possible at this point?

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tek465b 2 points ago +2 / -0

They should start by making it possible for people to work without a ton of bullshit like vax restrictions and alot more and then make it possible to actually earn a living by doing so, and if they want to give money then help people with disabilities and vet/health care.

They could also extract and refine natural ressource like petrol, create more manufacturing. Thats how you make thing move forward.

Seem simple.

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CommiesGetTheRope 1 point ago +1 / -0

$20 Billion plus the Gov't Grift Cash so at least a Trillion to end homelessness.

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nakedjay 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everyone should watch this clip on Tucker from 8 months ago on how politicians launder money to their cronies to "fight" homelessness. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DREmnsungVM&feature=youtu.be

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Orangetastic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even if money could fix homelessness, $20billion is barely enough to create the bureaucracy they would want to exist prior to starting.

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Make_CA_GreatAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rubs hands together excitedly

It's just the price of a gym membership, goy.

Oy vey, have a heart.

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lifelibertyproperty 1 point ago +1 / -0

You cannot end homelessness in America because it doesn't exist. It's drug addiction. Period. All "homeless" people in America have access to housing. They don't use it because the drugs are downtown in the tent cities.

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Retaining_H2O 1 point ago +1 / -0

I see a win-win in here. Why not just send our homeless to Ukraine?

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n0vnm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Joe Biden wants to spend $1 trillion to pay off student loans

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Alred 1 point ago +1 / -0

San Francisco spends about 600M to 1B per year for homeless. No one is planning to fix any problem.

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PreserveMF 1 point ago +1 / -0

While it is always thrown around that an amount of money can solve a problem like homelessness its not realistic. The genius of solving that problem would be the logistics, it would be a nightmare which is why it is all but a dream like clean energy.

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Jacurutu99 1 point ago +1 / -0

But Ukraine Rambo big Z needs more money to keep handing Russia their ass!

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Thecryptoclub 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s a big deport button

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Hankey77-78 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah they think they can move in with us. That way we can pay for that issue also, we pay for everything.

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OtherwiseSafe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trust me, you cannot end homelessness with money. In fact you might say that you could throw billions of other peoples dollars per year at poor people for decades on end and never effect a positive change.

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Honeypot02 1 point ago +1 / -0

If homelessness could be ended with 20B we would have done it by now

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MAGAdeburger 0 points ago +1 / -1

If politicians fixed anything, then they'd no longer have a purpose. #JobSecurity

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GoingCamaro 0 points ago +1 / -1

Instead of whining about how the government spends our taxes, we should unite on ending income tax. At least to start.

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DOOMERSLAYER -5 points ago +1 / -6

If Biden would propose spending 20 Billion to end homlessness, every Republican would vote against it.

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EZMojo [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

They have the numbers to do it without republicans. Why haven’t they? Why didn’t they do it when they had a “super majority” under Obama? Do you think democrats actually want to help the poor? That sentiment left with Kennedy.

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DOOMERSLAYER -5 points ago +1 / -6

Why don't the Republicans propose a bill?

Why diidn't they when they controlled President, Congress, and senate?

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EZMojo [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

You’ll get no argument from me about republican politicians. They are as bad as democrats. Although there is an ideological disagreement. Most conservatives don’t think throwing more money at it is the answer. There are already programs to keep the disabled, as well as mothers and children, in homes. But how do you convince a drug addict to stop spending his money on drugs and pay for a home? How do you convince people to go to work if they refuse to support themselves? How would money fix either of those problems?

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BetterNameUnfound 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're in control. Why don't YOU?