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Ladies and Gentlemen,

If I might ask your indulgence to permit me to briefly clarify and elaborate upon my previous post here: https://greatawakening.win/p/15IXWdUvR5/true-the-vote--heres-whats-next/

I continue to believe that Gregg Phillips’ data came from the NSA. The just-linked-to post explains my reasoning in detail. Boiled down to its essentials, my reasoning is: if Gregg purchased the data, it would contain informational gaps across devices and timeframes; therefore Gregg either did what he did despite the gaps, or he used a dataset that essentially had no gaps (i.e., the sort of dataset described in my previous post). Gregg plainly has an intelligence background and connections all over the intelligence community. So he was situated to gain access to the dataset, and the only plausible path for completion of his project was to use such data. Therefore, it came from the NSA.

I continue to believe that Gregg used one or more platforms provided to him by the NSA. The platforms he needed already existed. If the NSA was giving him the data, why would it not also furnish him with the platforms required to manipulate the data? Moreover, these sorts of platforms could not be built so quickly that TTV: (i) built the platforms from scratch; (ii) used the platforms to analyze the data to prove out their hypothesis; and (iii) created a movie about the whole affair – all in less than two years. Not remotely plausible. The NSA gave him the platforms.

Here's the most likely situation. The NSA – as a formal matter – did NOT give it to Gregg Phillips. If Nakasone is asked whether his agency gave Phillips the data or the platforms, his answer is “Absolutely Not.” But elements within the NSA absolutely gave the data and the platforms to Phillips. And the NSA can’t admit that. So the NSA is going to say that Gregg stole the data (and probably the platforms). If you listen closely to what Gregg has been saying, he has been talking around the edges of that situation for some time now:

“…We participated in the op. We were part of the op. We were in communication with the target at the behest of the government. We, we were involved deeply in this, in this CI op. I think what’s going to frighten people when they understand the gravity of what it is we’re telling them, and then when we tell them that, in the end, we were betrayed by the United States government, and they turned it on us, and went and told the enemy that it was us that did it. That it was our fault. AND THAT WE HAD PENETRATED THEIR SYSTEMS.” That’s a transcription of an excerpt of an interview Gregg recently participated in, with emphasis in the form of boldfacing added by me.

The NSA is in a terrible bind right now. I believe the NSA is privately accusing him of stealing the data and the platforms, and threatening him with arrest and prosecution, in an effort to silence him. They want to arrest Gregg to shut him down. But if they arrest him for “stealing” the data and the platforms, they confer credibility on the dataset and the methods – because they will have acknowledged that they came right from the NSA, itself – and therefore confer credibility on the conclusions. So they’re in a bind. The NSA needs to shut him down, but can’t afford to arrest him. I think this puts Gregg in a very dangerous position, as the NSA’s options are limited, if you see what I mean.

-simon

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cryofreeze 47 points ago +47 / -0

Pray for Greg, TTV, and truth.

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skidder1 33 points ago +33 / -0

It was likely Space Force that collected that data. We all just recently learned that Space Force wasn't added to the Posse Comitatus Act until 2022, which means it could operate under the orders of the President AND operate domestically.

IMO, this is the source for all the data.

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VetforTrump 7 points ago +7 / -0

I tend to agree with u

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2EyesOpen 34 points ago +35 / -1

Thanks for the informative insight.

Anons need to have ALL EYES ON this situation and understand it's import.

This needs stickied.

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simon_says [S] 22 points ago +22 / -0

I'm always happy to help out with my speculations. :-)

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2EyesOpen 26 points ago +26 / -0

Well Gregg is a big deal and needs more attention from anons as you know.

thanks and continue

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fazzman23 11 points ago +12 / -1

So are you saying Paul nakasone is a white hat or black hat???why would the nsa help him and then be mad it worked?

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harleytrvlr 25 points ago +25 / -0

I think he’s saying that elements within the NSA leaked this info to Greg, not the Agency itself.

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simon_says [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Correct.

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scoripowarrior 2 points ago +2 / -0

IMO I have always believed Nakasone to be a white hat.

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fazzman23 2 points ago +2 / -0

me too...which is why i asked

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bubble_bursts 25 points ago +25 / -0

Very interesting and chilling.

Perhaps thee are two factions within the NSA, and the dark side is only now catching up and turning against him. The light side would be operating silently and in shadows, so they wont come out right now in Greg's defence, but hopefully the time is not too far out now, hence all this happening.

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simon_says [S] 22 points ago +22 / -0

I think that the NSA is large, and like any large body of people, it contains within itself people of all stripes. Including brave, patriotic people who helped out Gregg. But no one can admit that.

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catsfive 14 points ago +14 / -0

Or those that helped him out under legal duress, i.e., supporting Space Force (or being transferred to SF under stipulations from an EO).

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PepeSee 7 points ago +7 / -0

On this part, I have my doubts that anyone "leaked" this to TTV/Gregg, unless it's all planned (my take, see comment I just posted in main thread).

I mean the Snowden stuff was one thing, this is a whole bunch of orders of magnitude bigger in terms of data and probably computing resources...it just doesn't jibe that a few patriots or something set him up with the keys to this kingdom....

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gloryhallelujah22 16 points ago +16 / -0

There seem to be two factions within every organization right now.

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Munchaussen 14 points ago +14 / -0

Patriots and traitors.

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PepeSee 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wizards and you know, the thing

Edit: No, wait - Wizards and? Wizards and?...

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JonathanE 2 points ago +2 / -0

Transitional device between water levels in a state of conflict?

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steelhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait, all the lochs are transitioning? Like big mike?

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Nolagirl99 7 points ago +7 / -0

Would space force trump NSA?

From space force…

“Unfettered access to space is vital to national defense. Space systems are woven into the fabric of our way of life. Space affects almost every part of our daily lives and is fundamental to our economic system. For example, satellites not only power the GPS technology that we use daily, but allow us to surf the web and call our friends, enable first responders to communicate with each other in times of crisis, time-stamp transactions in the world financial market…”

“In October 2019, Google AI Quantum, with the help of NASA, became the first to claim to have achieved quantum supremacy by performing calculations on the Sycamore quantum computer more than 3,000,000 times faster than they could be done on Summit, generally considered the world's fastest computer”

Space force was founded in December 2019…

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RugerP89 1 point ago +1 / -0

Every large corporation, and every government agency, has Patriots and has Clowns. Many Patriots masquerade as Clowns to get into high positions before Flipping in the most effective way.

NSA's own Adm. Mike Roger's is one such example.

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skf93 21 points ago +21 / -0

Some of the recent interviews, he also suggests the FBI are heavily involved and might also be betraying them.

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january20 12 points ago +12 / -0

Catherine's interview on RP78 last night hinted at this as well. (FBI, that is)

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skf93 6 points ago +6 / -0

Do you have a link?

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january20 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, didn't check back earlier yesterday. Here's a Rumble link to the interview: https://rumble.com/v1e6iu3-threats-from-enemies-both-foreign-and-domestic-with-catherine-englebrecht-o.html

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skf93 1 point ago +1 / -0

Someone already gave me a link.

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simon_says [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Interesting. If you have a link to a Rumble video (or whatever), I'd love to listen. Thanks, friend.

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skf93 13 points ago +13 / -0

I believe it was mentioned on this interview between Gregg Phillips and Sebastian Gorka on Greg's new podcast.

https://rumble.com/v1dye6h-the-intelligence-community.html

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simon_says [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

thank you

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GDZeus 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes, I wrote this out in another post from an interview from a guy named Tommy.

https://greatawakening.win/p/15IrPeiLVQ/gregg-phillips-says-august-will-/

https://rumble.com/v1duiqj-tpc-872-gregg-phillips-election-integrity.html

He says it at the end, start at 1:01:00.

Says "it's gonna be an amazing hot August, and we really look forward to all of it."

Then the other guy says, "as long as the nuclear war comes after his birthday on Aug. 7th", and Gregg says, "your good till your birthday".

So, whatever is coming will be after the 7th I guess. I didn't watch the whole thing, just went to the end to find when he said it will be a hot August.

Gregg -

@ 44:58 : These people will do anything to keep money, power and control

@45:05: Tyrants, hypocrites and liars are all going to be exposed by the patriots. And they are all going to come back and they're gonna take what's been taking from them. People are going to recover their freedom, they're going to take it back, and there's nothing the other side can do about it.

@45:36 - "the other side over played their hand and they over played their hand in a big way this time, and they don't know what to do about it."

@47:14 - And this thing where they are going to try to indict Trump is going to crack it open.

@55:28 - after the other guy (Tommy I believe) talks for a bit about contingency plans... at 55:28 Gregg says "I think what we are going to expose is, first of all on the face it's super easy to understand, it's not a technical leap for anyone to say .. oh ok, wow, that's freaking ridiculous. Everybody's going to be able to grab that, no matter who they are or where they are, they are going to be able to get that. I think because WE HAVE THE GOODS, we participated in the op, we were a part of the op, we were in communication with the target, at the behest of the government. We were involved deeply in this ci op. I think what's going to frighten people when they understand the gravity of what it is we're telling them, and when we tell them that in the end we were betrayed by the US government, and they turned it on us, and went and told the enemy that it was us that did it, that it was our fault, and that we had penetrated their system and that we had done all of this stuff. And this is the US government we worked for, we were engaged with, we were planning with, we were executing with, and were operating with. But for them to turn it on us, and blame us, it's gonna stun people. The worst part about the whole thing is, everything people are going to learn because the op effectively stopped when they did blame us, everything we're going to tell you is still in place, everything. And they are scared to death that it's going to come out. We've been accused of everything from stealing things to just nonsense. They are doing everything they can do to shut us out. They got every ci they got trying to get to us, ......

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TSearch 13 points ago +13 / -0

Interesting theory. Gregg and TTV seem like serious operators, if this theory is correct, nothing they have developed would be admissible in court. They wouldn’t go to all this trouble and risk to produce something that will be summarily thrown out. So, while interesting, I hope your theory is wrong.

Gregg also talks like 2000 Mules and this CI Op are two separate things. They say the CI Op is ten times bigger than Mules.

And Gregg also says very often everything is an Info Op. What we often take as comms to us may very well be comms to poke the enemy and see how they respond.

Thanks for sharing your theory, a lot of thought and effort went into presenting it.

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Ssue1216 11 points ago +11 / -0

Maybe not a civil court, but what about a military tribunal

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TSearch 5 points ago +5 / -0

Good question. If this is all part of the plan then it has to be done so normies can digest and accept the facts. Even if it’s used in a tribunal the standard seems to be that normies won’t reject the information provided and for sure they would run for the shelter the evidence would be inadmissible in civilian courts.

https://qposts.online/?q=3966&s=postnum

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simon_says [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

I've considered the exact same thing regarding admissibility. I have some thoughts on the matter, but they're a little too long for me to type out right now. They're also somewhat speculative. I'll try to get back in here and type them out later. I'd like your view on one particular aspect.

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needorganization 13 points ago +13 / -0

There's still the curious case of what was done via those Solar Winds hacks...

Wonder when that'll circle back into the news 🤔. Because it most definitely will.

As will that Nashville bombing/missle thing.

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Boozy_McFuckFace 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m waiting for this as well. The size of that hack and the manner in which it was done can only be done by a government. If it wasn’t ours, it was another major world power. Years of work and hundreds or thousands of people. Including physical penetrations of real world locations. This wasn’t all done from a small room in China. This was military in scope.

My gut is that it was an offensive operation in cyber warfare meant to collect evidence for enforcement under a Trump EO. A way to track all and surveil all of the criminals hiding behind the veil of corporations and banks. Just another means of catching them all.

And it also accomplishes the goal of taunting them by its name alone, and the date it was announced publicly lined up with a 45 day timeline from a Trump EO.

It lines up with all the changes Trump authorized in cyber warfare. He changed the way things are done, and authorized offensive operations for the first time basically ever in that field.

Plus the fact that we have heard not a peep since then, makes me believe thats intentional

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thephantom1979 12 points ago +12 / -0

So what you are saying. Is that our government cannot openly do what they have to do. In order to check for fraud automatically?

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simon_says [S] 19 points ago +19 / -0

I know that the leadership of the NSA cannot possibly admit to having provided the data and toolset to Gregg. They have to deny that.

I suspect that in private circles in Washington, they are saying that they provided Gregg with access to the data and tools, with the understanding that he would use them for a different purpose. But Gregg double-crossed them by outright appropriating the data and toolsets on to his own servers, and then using them for a different purpose. So he misappropriated it. Their story will be something along those lines.

What do I think? I think that access to the data and platforms is tightly monitored. So some rogue elements within the NSA gave it to Gregg so he could do - using third party systems - what they could not do from within (because they would not be permitted).

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thephantom1979 9 points ago +9 / -0

So if Gregg in our side or not?

If they say he stole it. Doesn’t this screw the whole thing of proving fraud out the window?

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polish_snausage 4 points ago +4 / -0

I wonder if the AT&T bombing, the camper that blew up on Christmas morning had something to do with Gregg's work... it was a big network hub...

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PepeSee 3 points ago +3 / -0

If not Gregg/TTV at least Dominion, weren't a bunch of machines there or something?

"The world's an imperfect place, campers blow up all the time."

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polish_snausage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, idk that whole was weird and then it was out of the news real quick

Edited: Alleged "News'

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Flowerpotz 7 points ago +7 / -0

we have met the enemy and he is us.

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simon_says [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Correct.

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Tewdryg 12 points ago +12 / -0

Here's another hypothesis you should consider. And since there is little evidence to suggest otherwise, we are making educated guesses (erg, hypothesizing).

Let's broaden the scope of Intelligence agencies to which this information could have originated and let's consider 5-Eyes. Are we to believe white hats are confined to the United States only? My belief is the answer is -- No. Could there be WH involved in 5-Eyes? It's plausible this may be true. Since 5-Eyes share Intel and we have already seen how the black hats like John Clapper and others used 5-Eyes as a legal loop hole to spy on Americans for the Obama Administration, it is very possible that Gregg Phillips' connections could have come from WH sources external to the United States.

What did Greg Phillips mean by stating this:

“…We participated in the op. We were part of the op. We were in communication with the target at the behest of the government. We, we were involved deeply in this, in this CI op. I think what’s going to frighten people when they understand the gravity of what it is we’re telling them, and then when we tell them that, in the end, we were betrayed by the United States government, and they turned it on us, and went and told the enemy that it was us that did it. That it was our fault. AND THAT WE HAD PENETRATED THEIR SYSTEMS.”

This sounds like the standard political damage control that we are already familiar with when Seth Rich released to the world the DNC records. The immediate response was the information was "hacked" by Guccifer 2.0 and Russia. The wording Phillips uses are in the past tense. I think this is key to understanding what Phillips is referring to. It is something that has already occurred. Even if it was a future scenario, why wouldn't Greg Phillips not be prescient enough to see the same political response as with Seth Rich? I believe this is what Greg Phillips is referring to. The NSA will always use plausible deniability to maintain an arms distance from being entangled in political theater.

I tend to believe Greg Phillips is acting as a figurehead. The 'goods' are not in his hands and may never have. Evidently from the devastating revelations already publicized (i.e. 2000 Mules), Phillips has maintained his personal protection. Is someone protecting him and TTV? Most likely. Is there a contingency plan if Phillips is somehow removed? Most likely. Q said -- 'Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing.'

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Suckitreddit 7 points ago +7 / -0

You raise some very interesting hypotheses. It is exhausting to try and hold onto these threads and create an idea of what is happening, only to remember that you can’t tell which threads are not true. Round and round we go.

Slightly related point...looking at web data for patriots.win for the past three months (post on patriots)

The five countries (four almost equal in percentage share of traffic) USA, UK, AUS, CAN. (France approx 4%) forgot if last month or last three months... the COUNTRIES weren’t surprising because duh...English speakers. It was the share of traffic from each country (each around 25% +_ 2) that was surprising.

I’ll try and find the post and update.

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SidetrackedAgain 5 points ago +5 / -0

I tend to think that taking Gregg Phillips out wouldn't stop anything from coming out. It would just be to punish him and I don't think the black hats would get anything positive out of taking out GP

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PepeSee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Definitely good insight that the plan really would in fact need WH in other countries (not just leaders like Putin). This a worldwide war/cleanup operation after all....

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suave200 2 points ago +2 / -0

Seems to me the plan would require infiltration of the deep state and world cabal players, in a similar manner that they have infiltrated state governments around the world. This would have required years of planning and work to get things into position for the final take down. Trump is a part of their plan, but not everything hinges on him. I am hopeful Putin and Xi are part of the plan also. Quite a movie indeed.

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catsfive 9 points ago +9 / -0

/u/Simon_Says Can you do an AMA? Can you talk about your time at Booz Allen Hamilton? Heheh. Why is the Bush Center for Intelligence REALLY named after Bush?

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simon_says [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I didn't realize AMA's were conducted on this platform. I'm not necessarily opposed to doing one at some time, although I think you all may be let down: as I've said before, I'm just a guy connecting dots. But I'm happy to connect them with you in a "live" fashion some time. I can't do that today, though.

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HeyItsOk 1 point ago +1 / -0

That'd be fun.

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Ssue1216 4 points ago +4 / -0

I would attend if so!

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HonestBobbin 9 points ago +9 / -0

Simon, your name & the way your mind works reminds me so much of a kid I knew in the late 90s back in school.

Those were fun times & you have brought back some fantastic memories as well as given some fantastic analysis.

Thank you for both! WWG1WGA.

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simon_says [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Well... I was in college in the early 90s (electrical engineering) and in law school in the late 90s. So there's a chance!

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HonestBobbin 3 points ago +3 / -0

LoL Always.

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TdawgTrump2021 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe they don't trust law enforcement with following through? This has to be the biggest happening any of us know of right now. If all of this is true, maybe it has to he done a certain way..

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MudFlood 1 point ago +1 / -0

NSA is essentially under military control or a branch of it? I forget exactly how Q phrased it. Anyway, I think when it goes down, it will be more of a military op, overseeing any civilian agencies or the like involved. Years in the making.

But who knows until it happens.

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Zappo 7 points ago +7 / -0

Puts Phillips' post on July 27, 2022 on TS in perspective:

Gregg Phillips

@greggphillips

· 3d Horseback above the Sacred Valley in Peru. Ridiculously beautiful place.

Y’all if I get disappeared someday, I have had an amazing life. I believe in Jesus Christ and the only way to heaven is through the Cross. #PatriotGames

https://truthsocial.com/@greggphillips/posts/108721660376489047

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simon_says [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Amen.

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StolenMemeCam 6 points ago +6 / -0

What if NSA are whitehats? And Gregg is their method of getting the info out? This would explain things nicely.

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SmolPedeBestPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

His “Gregq Phillips” name was no coincidence.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not sure what this means/refers to?

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dty6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gregq. there's a q

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PepeSee 2 points ago +2 / -0

OH duh IC now

Yeah that was "interesting" indeed.

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dty6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Have a great day, fren!

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PepeSee 2 points ago +2 / -0

You too, sir or ma'am!

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dty6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ma'am :)

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PyroDaMatchless 6 points ago +6 / -0

Q: How do you introduce evidence?

A: you get arrested.

Q: will this help?

A: no. Military is the only way.

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SuzyeQ 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have been listening to Gregg more often lately but will be sure to listen more intently to the issues you have brought up. Many times I have to do repeat listens because I get distracted by something and lose my listening high alert words or sentences. The sooner this information is dropped to us the better. I don’t want to see an innocent person hurt.

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CQVFEFE 4 points ago +4 / -0

The NSA needs to shut him down, but can’t afford to arrest him.

It seems to me this puts Gregg in the power position.

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simon_says [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think he has determined that this dynamic rules the day. And he's pressing his advantage.

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Mr_A 4 points ago +4 / -0

Isn't that deniability ("it didn't come from us") the whole reason they use the 3rd-party providers to begin with?

They seed the tech to private partners, with contracts that limit their ability to share, and when they do share, the NSA can still say "not me!"

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harleytrvlr 4 points ago +5 / -1

If the NSA were to eliminate Greg, that would be too obvious. I also think that none of us really know what’s going on. A most pressing question is, if Trump is at the center of all the “deep stater’s” angst Then why wouldn’t they just eliminate him? It feels like we’re all being duped. Like we’re in the middle of a YUGE Psyop. This may be a way to usher in the NWO in a orderly fashion. If that’s even possible. We have to consider all possible scenarios.

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Q20191776 4 points ago +4 / -0

Just a question...is PRISM part of ths? Answer: Yes, as OP's link mentions.

https://qalerts.app/?q=PRISM

SauceFag Here.

Just adding some links...

https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/what-is-the-nsas-prism-program-faq/

Benjamin Dreyfuss Emily Dreyfuss June 7, 2013 11:44 a.m. PT ...

On Tuesday, June 11 (2013), Google published a letter to the Justice Department, asking for permission to disclose the mechanism by which FISA requests are completed. ...

https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/nsa-surveillance-program-prism/

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-4/ 👈REMEMBER THIS ONE.

Fourth Amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Edit #2: Still adding links... Q: Is PRISM COTS, that is available commercially?

https://prisminc.com/who-we-serve/

What is cloud computing?

[cloud computing] NOUN the practice of using a network of remote servers hosted on the internet to store, manage, and process data, rather than a local server or a personal computer.

Can Internet Companies Buy and Sell Metadata?

Metadata Collection And Controversy 27 June 2016

https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/metadata-collection-and-controversy-27-6-2016-en

Your Data Is Shared and Sold… What’s Being Done About It?

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/data-shared-sold-whats-done/

TIL US Cell Carriers are (and/or were) selling REAL TIME location data without consent to 3rd parties including advertisers and even bounty hunters! ZDNet

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PepeSee 4 points ago +4 / -0

One thing I'd like to point out is TTV and/or Gregg (not sure which) have been doing this since 2016 IIRC. So I don't think the part about spinning this up so fast is correct - but I also don't think it's necessary for the argument here.

I think one way or the other Gregg is WH, I certainly do not think he's a random guy that decided to do this. He is -probably- WH and protected. My thinking is this is all a front for how the info can come out though if that's the case I'd still they just rather say "look this is a war, we're the fucking military, deal with it."

He tends to talk in a sort of aimless way instead of getting straight to the point, so things like the quoted paragraph here, he's deliberately vague about who "they" and "the enemy" are etc.

I think there is a LOT of "fog of war" around this guy - and hopefully a lot of it is lifted with TP/Ripcord/etc and we find out what the hell he is saying exactly (of not who HE is exactly, which we may never know).

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ObviousStatementMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

So, then, is Gregg basically preparing to make a huge sacrifice by releasing the "Ripcord" and making Confidential information public/crowd-sourced?

Or is this all part of the plan? A White Hat shell game to circumvent CLAS intel and make it seem like it was a mistake/shouldn't have happened?

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Q20191776 2 points ago +2 / -0

Publically available, crowdsourced information, freely given, is not illegal, is it?

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SidetrackedAgain 3 points ago +3 / -0

A question only -- I am in no way trying to push down your theory whatsoever... I just want to enlarge this hypothesis because it is a good one. Deserving of ALL potential approaches.

-- Plus -- a data breach of the NSA? That will not look good on a resume!

So, my research question -- "Where does Space Force play in with what Gregg Phillips may/may not have?

Remember that at the time of the election evolutions, Space Force was not officially "incorporated" into “The Posse Comitatus Act, which provides that:

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the U.S. Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined not more than $ 10,000 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.” The court further observed that “The Posse Comitatus Act, 18 U.S.C.S. § 1385 (1979), is designed to limit "the direct active use of federal troops by civil law enforcement officers" to enforce the laws of the nation. Limiting military involvement in civilian affairs is basic to our system of government and the protection of individual constitutional rights.”

Further, in State v. Danko, 219 Kan. 490 (Kan. 1976), the court held that “The Posse Comitatus Act, 18 U. S. C. S. § 1385, expresses a policy that is for the benefit of the people as a whole, rather than a policy which could be characterized as designed to protect the personal rights of individual citizens as declared in the Fourth Amendment, Application of the extraordinary remedy of exclusion is unnecessary as an added deterrent to the serious criminal sanctions provided in the Act.”

The Posse Comitatus Act didn't apply to Space Force until 2021.

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ghost_of_aswartz 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this is a very good assessment, simon / OP. I have been thinking about this a lot since I saw it on rumble yesterday.

The only thing i disagree with (and this is a serious OFF topic side note) is that he coudln't have done it in 2 yrs without the nsa's platform. The ability to come to market with a new 'platform' (ie make sense of the data) is not as difficult as you think. If you've done this kind of work before and worked with that type of data before, you will come to this problem with libraries. Also there are astounding libraries in every coding language to help you but they probably used python is my guess and specifically pandas and gis librarires because that is the math and mapping library needed for this kind of thing. Having readymade libraries gets you much more than halfway there. And for interface there a python gui frameworks available like wxpython to qtpython or qt or gtk, etc to make a graphic interface for their work; all with mapping / network graphing abilities and such that can be thrown into the gui. Keep in mind it CAN have bugs...it's not a deliverable to an end-user. There is no "legal" issue as it's inhouse software. It doesn't need to be shipped or tested thoroughly, only 'certified' in terms of verifying the analysis produced by the tool is correct by testing THAT rather than the code itself. It just needs to run and give them in house results. This is very different than say producing a paid software or a video game that cannot crash or have any such liability defects.

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simon_says [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I start up companies. So I know everything you're saying is true. ...It's crossed my mind that if the platform would not have needed to withstand the general public, then perhaps it could have been built much faster than I immediately believed. Still, all in, no. He started with the platform. ...That said, maybe what you're saying is correct. You go on my "follow" list!

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Choctaw 0 points ago +1 / -1

On the platform issue, I agree. One could easily use ELK to parse the data, it might take a few weeks to get your filters dialed in precisely. Logstash totally eats mass quantities of data. Though I haven't done it myself, I am quite confident that logstash can deal with pcaps as well. Anyone that has been in networking 5 mins knows that wireshark can filter and parse all pcaps.

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Choctaw 1 point ago +1 / -0

sorry if the tech is over your head. but parsing data isn't exactly difficult

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's the one thing that has always pissed me off about our side. No person fighting our enemy can ever do anything without someone on our team digging to high heaven to disclose what they are doing, and how they did it.

Our enemy need not do any research themselves because we tell them ever single thing that is going on. Somethings are better left unsaid.

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TheJake 2 points ago +3 / -1

Or hes another social media celebrity warrior martyr fueling the donation/bucket-kicking grift.

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blueballs43 1 point ago +1 / -0

SIMON, MYBE SO, BUT THEN THERE IS SO MUCH DATA THAT CAN BE ACCESSED FAIRLY EASILY BY FOLKS WITH A CERTAIN SKILL SET THAT PHILLIPS DESCRIPTION OF THE CELL PHONE DATE THEY (TRUE THE VOTTE) PURCHASED? MAY ACTUALLY BE THE ONLY DATA SET HE NEEDED? COMENT?

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ChessNotCheckers 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think this is why the child-abuse aspect is so critical. Leftists have proved for decades that they don't respect rule of law and will act unilaterally along party lines. The abuse of children is so disgusting to most (dems are normalizing it as fast as they can, but they're not there yet with mainstream acceptance) that it will be the chink in the armor that begins the prosecution of these criminals across party lines. Once we hit a certain critical mass, NCSWIC.

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Young_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is great!

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KAYDEE123 1 point ago +1 / -0

there may be an obvious answer to this...but ...im just curious..Why would the NSA give TTV the data , then privately accuse TTV of stealing the data in an effort to silence them...when the NSA already knows the data TTV has is from the NSA, since they gave it them

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Kampfer 1 point ago +4 / -3

Gregg plainly has an intelligence background and connections all over the intelligence community.

Source?

Therefore, it came from the NSA.

Source?

I continue to believe that Gregg used one or more platforms provided to him by the NSA. The platforms he needed already existed. If the NSA was giving him the data, why would it not also furnish him with the platforms required to manipulate the data?

Source?

But elements within the NSA absolutely gave the data and the platforms to Phillips. And the NSA can’t admit that.

Source?

I believe the NSA is privately accusing him of stealing the data and the platforms, and threatening him with arrest and prosecution, in an effort to silence him.

Source?

Seems to be several jumps to conclusions that aren't backed up by citable sources?

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ghost_of_aswartz 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are asking for sources for someone's opinions, inferences and deductions. How smart is that?

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ghost_of_aswartz 5 points ago +5 / -0

The much more productive way of inquiry here is to assume there is a source, and then perform what I call, 'an affirmational fact check' where you assume that OP believes what OP says and so you find sources to bolster their opinion or asserted claim. If you find the opposite, say so. Don't assume worst intentions, but if you find someone is wrong, say so. If you search exhaustively its better to say, "I searched exhaustively for sources of this claim, and couldn't find one. Does anyone here have a source for this claim?"

If you find source, post it here and support OPs claim. This is how you can contribute wholesomely to the conversation at hand.

If you cannot find it yet it exists, others may find it and post it. It may become a different and longer, broader discussion.

It's better to put a little bit of effort FIRST before just discounting with "SOURCE?". That is intellectually lazy and to many of us here, it appears to be the modus operandi of a pseudoskeptic. A real skeptic--someone who takes the discussion seriously--will rise up and make a valliant attempt at hunting sources on his own

Because to teach is to learn twice; to find and post source is to understand twice

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Kampfer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gregg plainly has an intelligence background and connections all over the intelligence community.

I searched exhaustively for sources of this claim, and couldn't find one. Does anyone here have a source for this claim?

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Kampfer 0 points ago +1 / -1

Isn't it normal for someone's opinions, inferences and deductions to have some citable basis in fact(s) and not just supposition pulled out of thin air?

Alot of positive assumptions are being made about Phillips, here, when he has no military background and has served as the Mississippi head of Human Services and Texas Deputy Commissioner of Human Services with some dubious allegations.

Do you know who Gregg Phillips really is?

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mnpsna 1 point ago +1 / -0

TTV was working directly with DJT. Check this tweet below. This was posted on Nov 3, 2020 itself!

https://twitter.com/ShawnTragedy/status/1323535839566077952

It is clear that TTV had all support from the government, including NSA.

I have said this before that with TTV connected to "2000 Mules" and upcoming exposure to 2020 Election fraud, they are definitely a "Big" player, if not the biggest player to watch out for!!

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Pollycracker 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do not think Greg will be following Snowden to Russia anytime soon.

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bluehairpatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't like that his handle has 13 letters...

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dirtypaperplate 1 point ago +1 / -0

“…We participated in the op. We were part of the op. We were in communication with the target at the behest of the government. We, we were involved deeply in this, in this CI op. I think what’s going to frighten people when they understand the gravity of what it is we’re telling them, and then when we tell them that, in the end, we were betrayed by the United States government, and they turned it on us, and went and told the enemy that it was us that did it. That it was our fault. AND THAT WE HAD PENETRATED THEIR SYSTEMS.”

Didn't something similar happen with Patrick Byrne? He helped set up Clinton and it got turned on him?

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MilesTeg 1 point ago +1 / -0

The only thing that trips me up is that he blocked me on Truth for talking shit about Roger Stone. Either he got butthurt way too easily over a differing opinion, or he thought I was a bot, which pokes holes in his intel abilities.

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PepeSee 2 points ago +2 / -0

He is like Lord Butthurt on there, that's a fact. I quit following him because he has to respond/argue with way too many people (the ones he doesn't block I guess LOL).

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SoMuchWinning45 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or the government will do what it does best and just kill him.

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Grief 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you still standing behind the fact that you worked in mergers and acquisitions and never signed an NDA?

"making purchases of companies/technologies in a unique "space" and then merging the companies/technologies." (From your original post")

I work in this world and you either weren't on the job or every single company you worked with are the dumbest people on the planet and didn't know what they were doing. Is it possible this is second hand knowledge you learned from a friend? Even your own company would have made you sign an NDA.

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simon_says [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hi, friend.

Good question, and solid conclusion relating to me having functioned as an M&A attorney - that conclusion squares with what I've said. Nevertheless, I was never an M&A attorney, nor was I functioning as one during the "mission" where I learned certain facts. At that time, I was serving in a rather irregular, unconventional capacity - not one really possible to deduce from facts available.

Over and out. Keep up the good critical thinking.

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Themis595 1 point ago +1 / -0

If giving him the intel put them in a bind, why give it to him at all? What was their goal? Did the NSA truly not envision the scenario of being trapped between a rock and a hard place as a possible outcome? They sound more like Keystone Cops.

Edit: so the original post made it sound like the NSA the institution gave him the intel, rather than a leaker from the NSA.

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The_Expert 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have seem nearly all of Gregg's interviews and I'm pretty sure he brings this up during Patal Patriots interview. He said something about working with someone or group and got betrayed bigly.

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Dashmoomoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

So Sexy this idear !

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GoingCamaro 0 points ago +1 / -1

Okay so I wasn't totally off when I suspected he had more help. I think he did purchase the data to stay truthful, but yeah I had a feeling the buyable data has redactions otherwise the carriers could now be sued into oblivion.

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Gaterop 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yawn, unbelievable that Gregg Phillips posts are still getting stickied given the guys recent track record of date fag failures. The words that come from his mouth always sound good, but how many times does he need to shoot himself in the foot by giving a date for something to happen and then nothing happens. This guy has 0 credibility in my books it's embarrassing people still are obsessing over anything the guy says.

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Panzershrekt 0 points ago +1 / -1

What I can't wrap my head around, is Gregg saying on TPC that there were no pcaps in Germany, no machines, etc, just plain old-school ballot box stuffing.

If it's misdirection, why? We already have states conducting investigations into the dominion machines and finding flaws. There's the findings of the CyberNinjas, even if it was presented poorly, the paper examination from Pulitzer, and all the other stuff. Why try and take attention from it now? So much time has already been wasted that trying to divert attention to the mules and away from the other methods seems pointless to me.

On top of that, Gregg says all the issues with 2020 are still in place. I thought elections were secured after 2018. That 2020 had to happen to catch them. So 2022 and 2024? Have we moved to using the elections as a means to wake people up, where each election cycle we let them cheat more and more? I guess I understand that part in the sense that America has to be remade from the ground up so its destruction is inevitable..

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

The GOP primary in CO shows without a doubt that Dominion is still a major factor in all this.

I haven't heard him say it was ONLY ballot-box stuffing. If that's where all this is going I have no idea what "10x bigger than Mules" would be - unless we've totally misunderstood the nature of the info coming up?

Do you have sauce on him saying the stuff in your first sentence/paragraph?

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Panzershrekt 1 point ago +1 / -0

17:35 mark of TPC episode #872

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL ok um how bout a link?

I don't know what "TPC" is

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah, that one - yeah I watched a clip more towards the end, not the whole thing (tbh this guy is so rambly AND this podcaster certainly is not averse to hearing himself talk either, I'd probably go nuts watching the whole thing).

That said, I didn't get that he is really asserting other things didn't happen (which would be patently absurd to suggest), but just that 2kM exposed one big and easily-digestible component of the operation. I read it more as people will understand ballot box stuffing but won't understand pcaps and whatever (also something dumb to suggest).

I dunno, I still maintain this guy probably has the goods (and he damn well better), but he also has a strange vibe. Maybe he's just a really dorky guy, or maybe he's full of it. Maybe he really does think nothing electronic happened (again, how would one even think that though).

I definitely have a sort of 2/3 optimism/let's gooo and 1/3 I honestly won't be shocked if whatever he thinks is 10x bigger than mules/international blah blah etc, isn't.

Edit: Whoops, meant to say thanks for the link.

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Panzershrekt 1 point ago +1 / -0

I suppose so, but he's underestimating peoples abilities to understand a machine switching votes and so on.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep - that's what I meant by "also something dumb to suggest" - the claim seemed to be a) Mules got people's attention because b) it's simple enough for them - and if that's really what he's saying, he's got a rather odd/limited outlook for sure....

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Tylerlc22 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Simon park???

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Eph612 1 point ago +1 / -0

Simon Parkes? What are you asking?

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Truthoverpower55 -4 points ago +2 / -6

I’m sorry. But at this point. SNORE ZZZZZZZZZZ

Wake me up when something happens

Talk is cheap

2000 mules was great. Did it move the needle ? Dunno

The sheep 🐑. The dummy Ds. Are many. They control much

All eyes 👀 on NOV 8

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Cozette 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Wake me up when something happens".

Perhaps its time to grow up. Get an alarm, learn how to use it, then take responsibility for waking yourself up.

Once awake, get up and pitch in to help rather than expecting others to do everything for you.

Or don't.

As you said " talk is cheap". Especially digital toddler talk.

Best wishes. 😘

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

"digital toddler talk" KEK

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dty6 1 point ago +1 / -0

it's perfect