posted ago by KiloRomeo ago by KiloRomeo +9 / -0

So I have some land now and I need to care for it / have some fun. I’m thinking like an ATV or a gator but I’m also interested in the survival / off grid aspects. Anyone have any good suggestions?

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YouNeedVPN 5 points ago +5 / -0

Little pickup trucks are amazingly useful and can be had for similar prices to ATVs/Gators. With a little bit bigger tires, you will have to find some pretty aggressive trail to get stuck. Bed is actually big enough to carry a load, frame is stout enough to build something onto it, drivetrain beefy enough to actually pull something.

ATVs are human transport. Gators attempt to add some hauling, but it's still minimal.

A strong argument could be made for a small tractor. Something with a bucket and a PTO. The amount of tools you can run of PTO or hydraulics is incredible, and this is the most economical way up enter than field.

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DadwithaWrench 3 points ago +3 / -0

The neighbors cringe but I just use old cars or trucks since I come across them cheap or free not passing safety inspection. The kids think they are great fun to drive and we like to shoot at them when they are all used up. The side by sides and 4 wheelers are expensive now but I think it's worth buying the brand names for parts and support if you go that route. Maybe find a local indy repair shop that works on all makes and ask his preference.

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teamshred 3 points ago +3 / -0

ATV is gonna be better if you need to plow snow and shit like that. If you just want to bomb around the property for fun then you could get one of those more dune buggy style things.

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xxnamexx530 2 points ago +2 / -0

if you go for something carbureted, you can convert to ethanol pretty easily(provided you know what you are doing), so even in SHTF you would have fuel, distilling ethanol is dead easy, particularly if you don't have to worry about getting sick drinking methanol.

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GuyWhite 2 points ago +4 / -2

No fuel after SHTF. I use a scythe, for instance, and a wheelbarrow, and garden wagon. I shovel 2,500 square feet of snow by hand, ideally every 2” of snowfall, but some times a foot falls over night and gets ahead of me.

2,500 square feet times one foot deep is 2,500 cubic feet and a cubic foot of snow weighs 10# dry snow to 12# wet snow. 25,000# snow is a lot of shoveling. I’m 73.

6.5 acres second growth scrub.

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KiloRomeo [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Definitely keeps you in prime condition. I’m thinking maybe diesel could be created- biodiesel esp

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AceOfTrumps 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do yourself a favor and make a hand plow. I made one a few years back from a metal pole, some angle iron & ~4'x2' sheet of scrap plywood.

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HerAlterEgo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you intend to plant an orchard? Or, cut wood, remove brush, centralize a fire pit? Get something with a bed or bucket.

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IdahoMan87 1 point ago +2 / -1

If you have acreage, you should get a tractor. 4x4 with a loader at the least, preferably with a subframe backhoe too. I grew up on acreage, and the tractor was the most used of anything with an internal combustion engine, besides chainsaws. We had pickups and ATVs too, but the tractor was still the top machine. In fact I have one now, even though I only own a 1/4 acre. It’s one machine I’m not willing to go without. The extra cash I get from side gigs is nothing to complain about either. Anyway, you’ll be amazed at how fast a properly equipped tractor can pay for itself.