posted ago by Coolgenner ago by Coolgenner +60 / -2

I was hoping they would not go this route, but they sent out an email saying vaccinated people do not need masks, and the dirty unvaccinated must wear masks. They expect us to use the honor system, but there is an abuse hotline set up to report people not wearing the yellow star, oops I mean mask If you don’t have the right papers. They insisted they have the right to ask for proof. I guess I should learn how to fake the vaccine card officially now. I’m just grateful I live in Florida and the majority of the folks are over the mask and probably won’t report me, but we’re nationwide company and there’s a lot of mask Nazis out there.

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MiyamotoHolliday 19 points ago +20 / -1

HIPAA says they cant ask for proof. Talk to HR, be sure to use the words "liability" and "potential lawsuits" a lot.

Athena86 6 points ago +7 / -1

HIPPA isn’t about employers. It’s only for doctors stating they won’t share your medical history with others without your attention.

MiyamotoHolliday 11 points ago +11 / -0

Im not a doctor, I have to follow HIPPA and I can get in big time trouble if I let PII leak. PII is confidential and the property of the patient. Without a release, without your consent, no one can see it.

If you ask an employee if they have been seen for substance abuse and they say no, you can't then demand proof. When I tell my boss I have a doctors appointment, they never ask what for, because I don't have to willingly give that information.

MiyamotoHolliday 6 points ago +6 / -0

Replying to myself.

They can ask if you have been vaccinated. They cannot force you to share your PII with them. If anyone who is not certified to look at PII forces you to give them PII, sue them. If someone who is certified forces you to show that... stall, figure out some way to get the PII seen by someone whos not certified without you being the cause, then sue them.

My blue state governmental health agency I work for is not asking for proof for a reason.

newuserfromreddit -2 points ago +1 / -3

Yeah, they can. They can also generally fire you if you refuse to answer.

Your healthcare employer is not asking for it because they’re a covered entity. If you don’t work in healthcare, you’re not a covered entity.

PII also literally includes things like your date of birth. The upshot of your argument is that an employer violates federal law by requiring an employee to give their birthday lol.

newuserfromreddit -3 points ago +2 / -5

That’s not even remotely how HIPAA works.

MiyamotoHolliday 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its a byproduct of all medical records being the private information of the patient. PII can only be shared with the patients consent.

When you ask a candidate if they have mental health issues, and they say no, you cant then demand their psychotherapy notes from them. They can ask, but they cannot demand you show them PII.

newuserfromreddit -2 points ago +2 / -4

Look up covered entities when you get a chance. Unless you’re working in the health field, HIPAA almost certainly does not apply to your employer.

MiyamotoHolliday 3 points ago +3 / -0

My blue state governmental health agency I work for is not asking for proof for a reason.