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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +3 / -1

There is a lot of crossover between Gnostic "Christianity" and the luciferianism that took over the freemasons.

Freemasonry began as a Gnostic sec hiding from catholic persecution, which is how you can find a lot of connection between freemasons and the founding fathers, as well as a lot of centuries old history that seems to paint them in better light. It's not merely rewriting history in their own favor, there was a genuine foundation of decency among them. But the Brotherhood of the Snake / Illuminati / Remnants of Babylonian Dualism found that Gnosticism was very easy to divert into their own ideology. It was already a form of Dualism, just had to make one tiny little change.

In the Gnostic belief there is the spiritual world and the physical world, and God exists only in the spiritual. They actually believe that all the physical world was created by satan in rebellion to God and His spiritual realm, this elevates a mere Angel to a level of godhood. In Christianity this is pure blasphemy, even as the Gnostics continue to believe they are totally the good guys.

Luciferians believe pretty much the same thing as the Gnostics do, only they decided the Physical world and all it's depravities ain't so bad, so maybe this lucifer guy who created the world and "gave" us the knowledge of good and evil ain't so bad after all. That maybe the God of Abraham is really just a stingy, controlling father figure who deserves being rebelled against. And so they create this "lord of light" who actually made everything, and "saved" humanity from spiritual slavery to the big bad evil god by giving us the freewill god refused us, and claim that Jesus actually came to convince people to go back into spiritual slavery, and thus was a bad guy.

The further up the Masonic ladder you go, the further down the Gnostic pipe you go, until you get sucked into the luciferianism. Then, and only then, do you get graduated beyond the lowest ranks. And by that I mean the 33rd degree is merely the top of the lowest degree.

Each of the secret societies; Masons, Jesuits, Knights of Malta, Skull and Bones, et all, are the "lower ranks." You must graduate "beyond" the Gnostic understanding to reach the higher ranks, and only then do you learn there is One society which is above them all. But "you" don't achieve this rank easily. Your grandfather does. And then your father, and then you.

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DavidColeIntrepid 2 points ago +3 / -1

The origins of masonry are fairly obscured. You speak rather matter of factly. Have any evidence on this? Or anything?

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I think you're just talking.

Christianity this is pure blasphemy

Why should the slaves be allowed to know they're slaves?

Please, tell me how evil "dualism" is while you demonize everything like waterboys momma. "That foolsball's the devil!" Haha

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't get your panties in a twist because I don't like your cult.

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DavidColeIntrepid 2 points ago +3 / -1

So no evidence on the claimed origin of masonry?

It's pretty funny you call everything the devil then go on to complain about "dualism"

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's pretty funny you call everything the devil

Have fun with your delusional little reality. Interestingly I didn't calla single thing 'the devil' let alone everything.

So no evidence on the claimed origin of masonry?

Why should I bother? You came out the gate trying to defend your cult against a perceived slight. You made it quite clear it was in no one's interest to engage on equal footing with you.

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DavidColeIntrepid 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why should I bother

Knowing what you're talking about? It couldn't hurt

You came out the gate trying to defend your cult

Lol. You've been educated. I have sources bud. It's just what the bible says.

You made it quite clear it was in no one's interest to engage on equal footing with you.

No. I made it clear I know more than you which makes you uncomfortable. As it should.

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AipacisAmericanenemy 0 points ago +1 / -1

the triangle (eye of horus) makes me think of how the joo star is 2 triangles. one inverted that signifies controlling both sides of the narrative. light/dark

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dudeguy [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

He was a lucifer, a light-bearer, a shining one, an angel

but now masquerades as an angel of light

because he was thrown down from Heaven, cast out.

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dudeguy [S] 6 points ago +9 / -3

triggered?

could have just scrolled by

if there's nothing wrong with it, why bother?

Is there something wrong?

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DavidColeIntrepid -2 points ago +5 / -7

triggered

Nope

could have just scrolled by

You could understand they don't literally worship "the devil" in a protestant sense. They worship the inner light. Prometheus.

The serpent who made Adam and eve "know the difference between good and evil" was a step forward for humanity instead be of living under the heel of some evil old-testament "god" who would punish you at the slightest insult.

Jesus identifies himself as Lucifer. So are Anton levey satanists just edgy christians with makeup? Well, yes. Actually

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dudeguy [S] 4 points ago +7 / -3

okay

so are you a freemason?

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DavidColeIntrepid -4 points ago +3 / -7

No

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dudeguy [S] 4 points ago +7 / -3

are you a Luciferian?

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DavidColeIntrepid -2 points ago +5 / -7

Depends on your framework. In a protestant sense? There is no "Satan" as they believe.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/368632.The_Sacred_Mushroom_and_the_Cross

I think what Jesus tried to do was entirely Promethean. "Don't listen to these false idols or the thieving money changers in the temple, find god in yourself". The abolishment of blood sacrifice backs this up "I am the last sacrifice" "don't be killing goats and divining with the entrails anymore"

I style myself as a "true" Christian while most everyone else is caught in a system of control with a thin veneer of mysticism.

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dudeguy [S] 6 points ago +10 / -4

You claim to be a true Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ, but you call God evil. And when confronted with the Satanic nature of Freemasonry, your response is "So?"

You say that Jesus identifies himself as Lucifer, which is not true. Lucifer disguises himself as an angel of light. But when asked are you a Luciferian, you do not answer. If Jesus is Lucifer, and Lucifer is Jesus, what's the difference to you?

You claim that Jesus said "find God in yourself" which he did not say. That what Jesus tried to do was entirely Promethean, and that Prometheus is the inner light. So is Jesus Prometheus now? And is Prometheus Jesus?

You come to the defense of the Serpent, saying that the serpent made Adam and Eve to know the difference between good and evil, which is not true. It was the fruit which bestows the knowledge. The serpent deceived Eve, saying she would not die if she ate it, which is a lie, and that she would become like God. This too was a lie. Why do you approve of deception?

You say this was a step forward for humanity instead of living under the heel of some evil old-testament god who would punish you at the slightest insult. But the Garden was a paradise, and humanity would have continually eaten the fruit of the tree of life (not the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil) which means we would have lived forever. That's not living under the heel of someone, Adam walked WITH God in Eden, just as Christians walk WITH God today. Another lie you proclaim is that God would punish you at the slightest insult. God is graceful, merciful. How often do people try to offend God and nothing happens? And God never changes, he is the same yesterday, and today, and forever. God is not evil. He still offers you eternal life, through Christ Jesus, who is the fruit of Life.

Also it is interesting to note your choice of words "living under the heel" of someone. Because God said he would put enmity between the serpent and the woman, and between the serpent's seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. It's the serpent who is under the heel in that situation. Under the heel of men. And Jesus has given his believers authority to trample on serpents, according to his word.

You say most everyone else, excluding yourself, is caught in a system of control with a thin veneer of mysticism. But you don't know the difference between God and Satan, the head or the heel, Jesus or Prometheus, the Lord or the Serpent, Christ or the Devil, the Holy Spirit, or Lucifer.

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Mrexreturns -4 points ago +3 / -7

Lucifer is literally just an edgy angel who turned against God and got sent down under.

They actually worship yhvh and are the remnants of the Papacy that destroyed Rome.

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dudeguy [S] 0 points ago +4 / -4

so are you a freemason?

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Mrexreturns -2 points ago +3 / -5

God is not Santa Claus.